These numbers were typical of most shows they played at La Cave.
Sundays were always very quiet - people have to get up early to go to work the next day.
La Cave was a small club - they would have been pretty packed on Friday/Saturday
lurid wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 12:10
It's amazing that only 364 people were prepared to pay $3 to see the Velvets on a Saturday night in Cleveland! And it must have been a quiet Sunday night with only 43 folks in the audience.....
falconwhit wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 02:09
Regarding the April 26-28 1968 shows, here's the financial breakdown for the weekend:
Friday 4/26
Door charge: $3.00
Number of admissions: 315 admissions
Total door receipts: $945
Total food & beer: $308
Total day receipt: $1253.00
Saturday 4/27
Door charge: $3.00
Number of admissions: 364
Total door receipts: $1092
Total food & beer: $298.45
Total day receipt: $1390.45
Sunday 4/28
Door charge: $3.00
Number of admissions: 43
Total door receipts: $129
Total food & beer: $34
Total day receipt: $163
The VU was paid $1100 for the 3 nights
The opening act Mynd Garden was paid $150
falconwhit wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 17:26
These numbers were typical of most shows they played at La Cave.
Sundays were always very quiet - people have to get up early to go to work the next day.
La Cave was a small club - they would have been pretty packed on Friday/Saturday
lurid wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 12:10
It's amazing that only 364 people were prepared to pay $3 to see the Velvets on a Saturday night in Cleveland! And it must have been a quiet Sunday night with only 43 folks in the audience.....
The sleeve notes for the Live '68 bootleg describe what is probably the Sunday in question as an "afternoon" set. Could that be correct?
falconwhit wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 17:26
These numbers were typical of most shows they played at La Cave.
Sundays were always very quiet - people have to get up early to go to work the next day.
La Cave was a small club - they would have been pretty packed on Friday/Saturday
The sleeve notes for the Live '68 bootleg describe what is probably the Sunday in question as an "afternoon" set. Could that be correct?
The ledgers from La Cave for the 4/26-4/28 weekend shows have "Day" crossed out and "Night" circled, so I assume Sunday was not an afternoon show.
Alright, here is what I have. This is from a now deceased Cleveland punk legend who at the time was working a liaison with Jamie between me and a friend who were trying to get all the La Cave tapes released over a decade ago.
04.30.68
1. Sweet Sister Ray
2. Venus in Furs (excerpt)
3. Heroin
as noted above. Maybe the date is wrong as information provided seems legit but this is how Jamie logged it.
10.04.68
Posted above
12.01.68
1. Heroin
2. What Goes On
3. Waiting for the Man
4. Pale Blue Eyes
5. Beginning to See the Light
6. I'm Set Free
7. Sister Ray
01.31.69
1. Intro
2. Waiting for the Man
3. What Goes On
4. Talking
5. Pale Blue Eyes
6. Sister Ray
03.28.69
1. Move Right In
2. Foggy Notion
3. I Can't Stand It
4. I'm Set Free
5. Story Of My Life
6. White Light / White Heat
7. Sister Ray
03.30.69
1. I Can't Stand It
2. Beginning To See The Light
3. White Light / White Heat
4. Candy Says (excerpt)
5. Heroin
6. Waiting for the Man
7. Foggy Notion
8. I'm Set Free
9. Pale Blue Eyes
10. What Goes On
So basically, the stuff that doesn't currently circulate is Beginning to See the Light on the 1.12.68 show, and then the two March 69 shows. Hope we get to hear all that one day.
What the list doesn't account for is the extra stuff that's supposedly from Cleveland Oct '68: the tape with Move Right In/I Can't Stand It/Story of My Life (first two of these having been released on the Live '68 LP with Jamie's involvement), and then the second What Goes On. I suppose it's possible that these could actually be mislabelled tracks from the March '69 shows??
Mark wrote: ↑30 Oct 2025 12:21
Thank you - great to see what actually exists.
So basically, the stuff that doesn't currently circulate is Beginning to See the Light on the 1.12.68 show, and then the two March 69 shows. Hope we get to hear all that one day.
What the list doesn't account for is the extra stuff that's supposedly from Cleveland Oct '68: the tape with Move Right In/I Can't Stand It/Story of My Life (first two of these having been released on the Live '68 LP with Jamie's involvement), and then the second What Goes On. I suppose it's possible that these could actually be mislabelled tracks from the March '69 shows??
That has always been my assumption and I have even talked to the person who has put out the bootlegs and he wasn't certain just released what he was given but did say that 'Problems in Urban Living' is in no sequence just put together to fit on 2xLP
Mark wrote: ↑30 Oct 2025 12:21
Thank you - great to see what actually exists.
So basically, the stuff that doesn't currently circulate is Beginning to See the Light on the 1.12.68 show, and then the two March 69 shows. Hope we get to hear all that one day.
What the list doesn't account for is the extra stuff that's supposedly from Cleveland Oct '68: the tape with Move Right In/I Can't Stand It/Story of My Life (first two of these having been released on the Live '68 LP with Jamie's involvement), and then the second What Goes On. I suppose it's possible that these could actually be mislabelled tracks from the March '69 shows??
Yes, thank you, LoathesomeCowboyBill. Much appreciated.
I don't think the second What Goes On sounds like it's from March '69, because I think it has Doug on bass, rather than keyboards. Anyone agree/disagree?