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Posted: 13 Sep 2005 11:09
by alfredovu
Mark wrote:Acetates. Ass and tits.

Sorry.
Well, being an (old) VU fan, i have had to handle with acetates for a long time. Early vinyl boots were plently of demos sourced from Sterling acetates, and they were amazing stuff. I do not care about sound quality at all. Did not care then and do not care now with all this Hi-Tech Cds, mp3, mp??. Most important for me is the music. If the sound is cristal clear: ok, but if not I prefer put my hand on a low-fi transfer from Mr. Dolph acetate than be waiting for years till Universal & the guy owning the copy of the acetate decide to publish it.

It is just a different point of view, isn“t it?

Posted: 13 Sep 2005 11:43
by Mark
Sorry... it was a joke. A play on words, if you will.

Posted: 13 Sep 2005 12:15
by alfredovu
Mark wrote:Sorry... it was a joke. A play on words, if you will.
Damn, it is good. I apologies. My bad english did not help me to recognice it. Like it, like it

Re: new acetate boot 3cd set

Posted: 13 Sep 2005 17:08
by Ignacio Julia
lurid_uk wrote:no-one mentioned the very impressive "credits" listed "Iggy" is Ignacio Julia
If those guys were involved then the rest of the information on the cover is probably correct....
Gentlemen,
I?ve been gently invited by fellow Spaniard Alfredovu to intrude your forum with some info on the Japanese triple CD bootleg that seems to have stormed the VU fandom for good. Yes, the tracks included on CD 1 come from a rare acetate discovered in Moe?s closet in the late 80s, as were the ?Countess from Hong Kong? tracks and probably the so-called Sterling acetate on CD 2. ?The VU & Nico? stuff is the same music as the Dolph disc, but way more scratchy and noisy. Fine stuff anyway: ?Waiting for the man? is a complete different take with no piano, etc.
Dolph?s version is currently circulating in an edited demo copy with blanks and jumps ?no silly voiceovers, although that would have been fun? to render it unbootlegable (if this is correct English). It sounds perfectly clean in comparison, releasable by Universal as a bonus disc in further editions of the first album.
Having heard both sources, I only regret they were not unearthed earlier, on time for the ?Banana Not So De Luxe Edition?.
As my beloved colleage Mr. Mercuri states, I didn?t have anything to do with the unofficial release from Japan. That my anglo nickname is used in the thank you list makes me proud, not guilty.
Good to see that the best rock band ever is still cooking in the minds of listeners all over the world.
Thank you for your attention and good night,
Ignacio Julia

Posted: 13 Sep 2005 17:31
by jimjim
Woooooooah...that is good news...

Image

*drools*

Posted: 13 Sep 2005 21:26
by dsulpy
Thanks for the info! Sleeping next to the computer, waiting for a torrent somewhere...

Posted: 14 Sep 2005 07:28
by Guest
Wow, that's amazing. I hope the "edited copy with blanks and jumps" starts doing the rounds as well...

Posted: 14 Sep 2005 10:36
by Nuno
I think that Moe never mentioned this acetate before, right? Not even in that indepth interview she did for Phil Milstein and Mike Kostek for What Goes On #4...It seems that there is still a lot to know about the Velvets...what about a new and revised edition of Up-Tight?

Posted: 14 Sep 2005 11:59
by MJG196
Nuno wrote:What about a new and revised edition of Up-Tight?
Didn't Bockris write that? If he did, he has a lot of other issues to deal with: http://www.velvetforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=4834#4834

Posted: 14 Sep 2005 23:01
by sars
Uptight has a lot of innacuracies, I'd rather someone just start from scratch and do something a little more in depth and better researched. There was so little post-Warhol, and the new chapter outlining the 93 reunion is so childish. It's like Bockris rewrote Transformer. half of his little writing quirks barely make any sense.

love them pictures, though.