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I got this amaizing pic.from some FC page,seems a a sort of rehearsing with AW,Nico,ultraviolet&boys at the back,in 2nd factory.That's pretty cool..!!

taxine wrote:

I got this amaizing pic.from some FC page,seems a a sort of rehearsing with AW,Nico,ultraviolet&boys at the back,in 2nd factory.That's pretty cool..!!

Very nice, Taxine - you're a genius at finding pictures. So, that's the second Factory? I hadn't clocked pics of the 2nd Factory before. It looks much brighter, cleaner and more salubrious than the first ? a bit more generic, like a modern 'art' space. Does that mean this pic is 1968 - the year AW got shot ?

Here's another I guess from same FC page. There's a haunted look on Nico's face in this one...

Wasn't nico a brunette by 1968?

iaredatsun wrote:

taxine wrote:

I got this amaizing pic.from some FC page,seems a a sort of rehearsing with AW,Nico,ultraviolet&boys at the back,in 2nd factory.That's pretty cool..!!

Very nice, Taxine - you're a genius at finding pictures. So, that's the second Factory? I hadn't clocked pics of the 2nd Factory before. It looks much brighter, cleaner and more salubrious than the first ? a bit more generic, like a modern 'art' space. Does that mean this pic is 1968 - the year AW got shot ?

Here's another I guess from same FC page. There's a haunted look on Nico's face in this one...

Yep,I missed it,great find and thanks for your kind words iaredatsun.Regarding about the date Warhol moved to White Factory in early feb.and was shot JUNE 3,1968.Looks these pix was taken out prior that date.

?Everyone could sort of sense that the move downtown was more than just a change of place - for one thing, the Silver Period was definitely over, we were into white now. Also, the new Factory was definitely not a place where the old insanity could go on. Even though the ?screening room? had couches and a stereo and a TV and was clearly for lounging around, the big desks up front as you came in off the elevator gave people the hint that there was something going on in the way of business, that it wasn?t all just hanging around anymore. We spent more time than ever at Max?s, since it wsas so close and since Mickey still gave us credit for art. It was like an answering service for us - say we wanted to get in touch with a certain superstar, we?d just leave a message at Max?s for them to call the Factory or else just put out the word in the back room.?

Andy Warhol (via Pat Hackett in Popism)

taxine wrote:
?Everyone could sort of sense that the move downtown was more than just a change of place - for one thing, the Silver Period was definitely over, we were into white now. Also, the new Factory was definitely not a place where the old insanity could go on. Even though the ?screening room? had couches and a stereo and a TV and was clearly for lounging around, the big desks up front as you came in off the elevator gave people the hint that there was something going on in the way of business, that it wasn?t all just hanging around anymore. We spent more time than ever at Max?s, since it wsas so close and since Mickey still gave us credit for art. It was like an answering service for us - say we wanted to get in touch with a certain superstar, we?d just leave a message at Max?s for them to call the Factory or else just put out the word in the back room.?

Andy Warhol (via Pat Hackett in Popism)

Interesting quote. I've read Popism but could not remember this part. (Must have skimmed it. )

I know things really changed after AW got shot but from this quote it already sounds like things were deliberately getting more business-like before that happened. The increasing influence of Paul Morrissey?

Btw, When did they send Nico back home to Europe? Was it this same year?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 2443_n.jpg hope this works..

Actually love these huge silver factory pix,bringin' out to the place for a while....actress Benedetta Barzini,AW,Nat Filskein and Billy Name,1965/66.

Its amazing to think that an original Banana print was decoration in the silver factory toilets!

Brilliant ..!!

Maybe Babana early concept was a sort of Cow wallpaper series work.

Andy Warhol's Cow wallpaper was the first in a series of wallpaper designs he created from the 1960s.
According to Warhol, the inspiration for the cow theme stemmed from art dealer Ivan Karp..(Wikipedia)

taxine wrote:Brilliant ..!!

Maybe Babana early concept was a sort of Cow wallpaper series work.

Andy Warhol's Cow wallpaper was the first in a series of wallpaper designs he created from the 1960s.
According to Warhol, the inspiration for the cow theme stemmed from art dealer Ivan Karp..(Wikipedia)

That's a fascinating thought which hadn't occurred to me Taxine, yes it looks very different to the usual Banana 'cut out'..

From Oliviers page on the origins of the Banana -
Matt Wrbican* says: Andy Warhol created a print of the banana image at about the same time as the album design. The print, titled "Banana," is listed in the Catalogue Raisonne of his prints as number 11.10, dated "circa 1966," dimensions 61 x 135,2 cm, the peelable banana is 45,4 x 92,1 cm. No one knows which, the print or the album, was made first. Warhol also made several films in ca. 1964-66 (such as "Harlot") in which a banana was prominently featured. [* Matt Wrbican is Assistant Archivist at The Andy Warhol Museum][/i]

So the print behind might be the 61x135cm one - but to me (getting the tape measure out) the one in the photo looks bigger than the one cataloged.