Wow, Terveet Kädet! *drool* Thanks for the link! (as an aside, do you know if any pre-Smiths Morrissey tapes exist? You know, Nosebleeds etc.)mg196 wrote:There is another fantastic site at http://www.strangereaction.com (he is currently upgrading the site), and that dude converts hundreds of punk/hardcore LP's/7"s and singles into MP3 for the world to share.
Pre-Velvets new find?
Glad you enjoy the site, too! That dude's ultimate band is The Fall.arjan wrote:Wow, Terveet Kädet! *drool* Thanks for the link! (as an aside, do you know if any pre-Smiths Morrissey tapes exist? You know, Nosebleeds etc.)mg196 wrote:There is another fantastic site at http://www.strangereaction.com (he is currently upgrading the site), and that dude converts hundreds of punk/hardcore LP's/7"s and singles into MP3 for the world to share.
I am not aware of any - I haven't seen any Moz stuff pre-1983. The guitarist for the Nosebleeds was that dude from the Cult, right? And Johnny Marr's pre-Smiths band was called something like the Sister Rays, wasn't it?
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some of you guys should stop bitching about sound quality/MP3/FLAC etc etc etc and get a life. If you want to hear "lossless" material then go out and BUY it. Dont complain about what someone is giving you for free.
I'm with Arjan - listen to the MUSIC and stop bitching. (I also well remember when waiting for a parcel of (noisy) cassettes was the only way to get/hear this sort of stuff.)
Are all of the songs on the LP Beach Boys songs? I know that the equivalent "Liverpool Beats" LP has a mixture of Lennon/McCartney originals and uncredited beatles "soundalike" songs. I just assumed that this one was the same.
I'm with Arjan - listen to the MUSIC and stop bitching. (I also well remember when waiting for a parcel of (noisy) cassettes was the only way to get/hear this sort of stuff.)
Are all of the songs on the LP Beach Boys songs? I know that the equivalent "Liverpool Beats" LP has a mixture of Lennon/McCartney originals and uncredited beatles "soundalike" songs. I just assumed that this one was the same.
Yeah, as I understand it, Ed Banger and the original guitarist left the band, leaving just the rhythm section. Moz and Billy Duffy were drafted in to fill their places. Wasn't Vini Reilly part of the line-up at one time? But we digress...mg196 wrote:The guitarist for the Nosebleeds was that dude from the Cult, right? And Johnny Marr's pre-Smiths band was called something like the Sister Rays, wasn't it?
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Alright, I did a search on BMI and sure enough, they're all Beach Boys compositions. Specifically, "Little Deuce Coupé" is a Brian Wilson-Roger Val Christian ditty. (Just to make sure the cunning bastards hadn't written their own songs with Beach Boys titles, I checked when there were multiple entries of a given title.)gordon wrote:Are all of the songs on the LP Beach Boys songs? I know that the equivalent "Liverpool Beats" LP has a mixture of Lennon/McCartney originals and uncredited beatles "soundalike" songs. I just assumed that this one was the same.
Doctor Bob, can you tell us anything about the guitar playing on these songs?
Hi, Gordon
Yes... Beach Boys all the way.
As for the other arguments...
I can't hear any difference between a 192 mp3 (stereo) and a CD, so mp3's don't bother me. And, as has been said, looking a gift horse in the mouth is bad form. If you'd RATHER spend $70 to get a copy of this piece of vinyl excrement - go ahead. A few seconds for an mp3 is, to me, all it's worth. This crap makes "Cycle Annie" sound like "Venus In Furs"...
What's been absent here is any real discussion on what you people think of the tracks themselves (as opposed to the sound quality). So what's the consensus? Is Lou singing on these, or not? My initial impression was "no... it's just some untalented yob who sounds exactly like Lou Reed" -- but now I'm believing it. I'm going to pitch it down a bit and see if things click a bit more - I have a suspicion the whole thing's running too fast, compared to the original Beach Boys recordings.
Yes... Beach Boys all the way.
As for the other arguments...
I can't hear any difference between a 192 mp3 (stereo) and a CD, so mp3's don't bother me. And, as has been said, looking a gift horse in the mouth is bad form. If you'd RATHER spend $70 to get a copy of this piece of vinyl excrement - go ahead. A few seconds for an mp3 is, to me, all it's worth. This crap makes "Cycle Annie" sound like "Venus In Furs"...
What's been absent here is any real discussion on what you people think of the tracks themselves (as opposed to the sound quality). So what's the consensus? Is Lou singing on these, or not? My initial impression was "no... it's just some untalented yob who sounds exactly like Lou Reed" -- but now I'm believing it. I'm going to pitch it down a bit and see if things click a bit more - I have a suspicion the whole thing's running too fast, compared to the original Beach Boys recordings.
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The UK issue is on Allegro ALL 867 ("A Product Of Pickwick International Inc (GB) Ltd"). It has a different but equally cheesy cover shot of a cool blonde surfing dude who seems to need 2 bikini clad girls to help him carry his surfboard along the beach. The back cover has the standard ads for a million other Allegro releases ("Additional Hours of Musical Enjoyment Available on Allegro Records")
I'm listening to it as we speak and I dont hear Lou in there. I can hear the resemblance in the lead voice on "Little Deuce Coupe" but I think it's only a resemblance. I'm not so sure about the guitar playing. The guitar "solo" in "409" is particulary untunefull and I could believe that is Lou. Likewise the "rattling" rhythm guitar in "Little Honda". But it could equally well be anyone else.....
I'll listen to side 2 later - side 1 has only "questionable" Lou involvement to my ears. I see now that all the songs have writers/publishers credits on the record labels and there is a copyright date of 1967. But that could well be the UK copyright date and wouldn't preclude the songs being recorded in 1964/65....
I dont think Lou's on there! But I'd love to be proved wrong.
I'm listening to it as we speak and I dont hear Lou in there. I can hear the resemblance in the lead voice on "Little Deuce Coupe" but I think it's only a resemblance. I'm not so sure about the guitar playing. The guitar "solo" in "409" is particulary untunefull and I could believe that is Lou. Likewise the "rattling" rhythm guitar in "Little Honda". But it could equally well be anyone else.....
I'll listen to side 2 later - side 1 has only "questionable" Lou involvement to my ears. I see now that all the songs have writers/publishers credits on the record labels and there is a copyright date of 1967. But that could well be the UK copyright date and wouldn't preclude the songs being recorded in 1964/65....
I dont think Lou's on there! But I'd love to be proved wrong.
PLINK!GroovyMusic wrote:I think smartasses have big problems.deckarep wrote:If this "angers" you, then YOU have a very big problem. Get some help!
There's too much going on around the world to be angered by somone who encode to mp3 or other lossy formats and then post it on the net.
You can give that to the birds and bees.deckarep wrote:Be thankful for what you get for free...
Deck
this IS lou!!!
you guys have got to be kidding! there is no way that isn't lou singing on little deuce coupe and surfin. the phrasing is classic lou reed, and the voice is so recognizable. it also sounds like him playing guitar on fun fun fun.
someone else mentioned that the tapes sound a little fast, but you should consider that these guys were all amphetamine freaks and that probably had something to do with the speed. (we're gonna have a real good time together is a classic example of a speed freak playing rock and roll!)
i've owned this record since the eighties and kinda kept it to myself because it's so awful. i stumbled across it at a flew market and bought it for the cover, i used to collect weird surf/hot rod covers. when i finally got around to listening to it, i instantly recognized lou's voice. i've never really talked about it because it's one thing to associate cycle annie or the ostrich with the velvets, but this is truly horrible music. the barber shop backing vocals make my skin crawl.
anyhoo...just thought i'd throw in my .02...
someone else mentioned that the tapes sound a little fast, but you should consider that these guys were all amphetamine freaks and that probably had something to do with the speed. (we're gonna have a real good time together is a classic example of a speed freak playing rock and roll!)
i've owned this record since the eighties and kinda kept it to myself because it's so awful. i stumbled across it at a flew market and bought it for the cover, i used to collect weird surf/hot rod covers. when i finally got around to listening to it, i instantly recognized lou's voice. i've never really talked about it because it's one thing to associate cycle annie or the ostrich with the velvets, but this is truly horrible music. the barber shop backing vocals make my skin crawl.
anyhoo...just thought i'd throw in my .02...
Re: this IS lou!!!
My comment had more to do with them sounding out-of-key with the Beach Boys' original recordings than the tempo. Indeed, when I slowed the tracks down half a step, everything sounded more natural.bob338 wrote:...
someone else mentioned that the tapes sound a little fast, but you should consider that these guys were all amphetamine freaks and that probably had something to do with the speed....
In the early '60's, it was common to bump up the speed on a track to make it more "exciting" - with a fly-by-night record like this it wouldn't be surprising at all.