Ride Into The Sun Instrumental with added vocal

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Elvis Plebsley
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Re: Ride Into The Sun Instrumental with added vocal

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I suppose the easiest way to clarify this is with reference to the Studio recordings listin on Olivier's site: http://olivier.landemaine.free.fr/vu/an ... tudio.html

Bobbydriver's version puts the vocal from the Late 69/Early 70 session on to the 5 September 1969 instrumental.

The other 2 versions are using the 5th September instrumental, but are mixing in the vocal from the lower quality vocal version of that same Sept 5th take. These are trying to create a hybrid which maintains the quality of the instrumental and uses the correct vocal.
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Re: Ride Into The Sun Instrumental with added vocal

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searchin4mymainline wrote: 13 Dec 2024 23:40
Mark wrote: 13 Dec 2024 22:40 Hang on, which acetate are we talking about? I know there was a later acetate version of Ride from an entirely separate session - same source as Countess from Hong Kong etc.

But my understanding was that the What Goes On version of Ride - the one we're talking about here - was sourced from the same set of acetates as the Live 1969 recordings. The actual recording may have been the same session as the Another View version, but it has reached us via an acetate. (And possibly a couple of cassette generations, judging by the sound quality).
When I say "acetate", I'm talking about the acetate with Ride and Countess from Hong Kong etc. As you say, that is the one bobbydriver used the vocals from. I'm not sure, off the top of my head, where the What Goes On version is ultimately sourced from. The notes in the What Goes On booklet do say "from acetate", but they also incorrectly imply it's the version from the same acetate as Countess From Hong Kong by saying it's from the Polydor (France) 5 CD box set, which it isn't, so those notes aren't reliable.
It's probably late enough in the game that it doesn't matter now, but allegedly this was a deliberate 'mistake' to try to minimise how many 'bootleg' tracks it appeared were on this set. It was problematic licensing-wise to include any unofficial recordings, but a few somehow ended up on there. I believe the source of the 'Ride' track was either the 7" bootleg from the late 80s, or the cassette that was the source for that single.
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Re: Ride Into The Sun Instrumental with added vocal

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The September 5th instrumental version was clearly meant to be instrumental only. You can tell by the way they add a new instrument each time the pattern repeats itself. First it's just Lou, then Sterling adds his pretty part, then another guitar line is added, then a fuzz guitar solo, then a piano, then a second fuzz guitar solo. They would not have added so many solo parts if there had intended to accompany vocals on top. My thought is that Lou had not written the lyrics yet when they did the recording. We know they were playing it with vocals by November, so he probably wrote them sometime that fall.

In my opinion, the most fully realized version of the song, which combines the strengths of the instrumental with vocals is Luna's version.
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