Columbus Valleydale bootleg comparison

[falconwhit]

Just got the Live At Valleydale Ballroom double lp bootleg with the green cover (VUAS 1966) which was obviously sourced from the 45th anniversary CD.
Wondering how this compares with the earlier boots of the song sides (1986's original Down For You Is Up on
Easy Flyte Records, or the 1989 reissues (VU-1)? Interested to know how the earlier versions sound.
Thanks!

[falconwhit]

To clarify: I know the recording is really muddy and don't expect any miracles. Just wondering if the older bootlegs didn't have the harsh midrange present in the recent version. Another way to rephrase my question: does anyone know what the source was for the official CD release? Was it sourced from one of these older bootlegs, or did Universal have access to an earlier source?

[Mark]

The 45th Anniv CD is sourced, I believe, from the original (1996) 'Move Back' bootleg. This in turn was sourced from (a DAT of?) the master. This is the best source out there; all subsequent releases are screwed-around-with copies of this or other boots.

The only issue with Move Back is some diginoise on Heroin and a number of edits - notably a few portions chopped from the instrumentals, a bit of Waiting for the Man looped to mask a tape cut, and some bits of 'dead air' removed between songs to make it a more coherent listen. All these edits are identical on the 45th anniversary CD.

If you want to fill these gaps, get hold of the 'EPI/1966' boot, also from the mid '90s. This is from a first gen cassette rather than a DAT, and runs slow, but is (I think) the complete recording.

[Kill Mick]

Also falconwhit, worth looking at what some kind soul posted here...viewtopic.php?f=1&t=144619&start=60

[falconwhit]

Thanks Mark. I do have the 'EPI/1966' which I love for sentimental reasons - I bought it when it came out.
I briefly compared it with the new bootleg and side A sounds better to me, more natural; it doesn't feel like it was digitized then converted back.
Side B sounds louder and cleaner on the new boot, although I just did a quick check over the intro.
My question is really about the two sides with the songs as I don't have these on the earlier vinyl bootlegs and I couldn't compare. Some of the vocals and guitars sound really harsh on this recent bootleg, I assume from going through some crappy digital conversions back in the 80's, but I might be wrong. I was thus considering trying to find a copy of Down for You is Up and get rid of that new bootleg, but have no idea how the older boots (pre CD's I assume) sound.
Hope this makes sense...

[falconwhit]

Thanks Kill Mick!

[Mark]

Thanks Mark. I do have the 'EPI/1966' which I love for sentimental reasons - I bought it when it came out.
I briefly compared it with the new bootleg and side A sounds better to me, more natural; it doesn't feel like it was digitized then converted back.
Side B sounds louder and cleaner on the new boot, although I just did a quick check over the intro.
My question is really about the two sides with the songs as I don't have these on the earlier vinyl bootlegs and I couldn't compare. Some of the vocals and guitars sound really harsh on this recent bootleg, I assume from going through some crappy digital conversions back in the 80's, but I might be wrong. I was thus considering trying to find a copy of Down for You is Up and get rid of that new bootleg, but have no idea how the older boots (pre CD's I assume) sound.
Hope this makes sense...

Is it the vinyl you have? I was talking about the CD version which has the full set.

Can't comment on the sound of any of the old vinyl releases...

[falconwhit]

Vinyl, sorry if I wasn't clear.