Velvet's Genuine Bootleg Series

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that looks great! Especially those November 69 rehearsals... 2 "sweet Bonnie Brown"... Wow!!
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Thanks for the detailed info Nuno..

Mmmmm..well its a bit of mixed bag - i think they've been quite clever with the track listing and spreading any good stuff abit thin over the 3CDs. I wonder whether the rehearsals really are what they say or just a re-hash of official Quine stuff. Not really sure whether theres enough new stuff to persuade me to buy it yet.
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Hmm... hopefully disc 3 will make up for the somewhat rehashed content of the other two discs!
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Nuno wrote:DISC ONE:
Rehearsal session, The Factory, NYC 3 January 1966: WALK ALONE; MISS JOANIE LEE; THERE SHE GOES AGAIN #1; THERE SHE GOES AGAIN #2; GET IT ON TIME
Filmmaker?s Cinemateque, NYC 6 February 1966: I?LL KEEP IT WITH MINE; EUROPEAN SON/SUSIE Q
Alternate versions, Scepter Studios, NYC April 1966: HEROIN; VENUS IN FURS; WAITING FOR THE MAN; EUROPEAN SON; ALL TOMORROW PARTIES
Poor Richard?s, Chicago 23 June 1966: HEROIN; VENUS IN FURS
1964 Primitives single: THE OSTRICH
DISC TWO:
The Gymnasium, NYC April 1967: I?M NOT A YOUNG MAN ANYMORE; WAITING FOR THE MAN; RUN RUN RUN; SISTER RAY
La Cave, Cleveland 28 April 1968: SWEET SISTER RAY
DISC THREE:
Demo?s, Unknown location, late 1969; WE?RE GONNA HAVE A REAL GOOD TIME TOGETHER; RIDE INTO THE SUN
Rehearsals, San Francisco November 1969: SWEET JANE; I CAN?T STAND IT; SWEET BONNIE BROWN #1; IT?S JUST TOO MUCH; HEROIN; SOME KNDA LOVE; SWEET BONNIE BROWN #2; LISA SAYS
The End Of Cole Avenue, Dallas 18 October 1969: THAT?S THE STORY OF MY LIFE; CANDY SAYS; JESUS; SUNDAY MORNING
Unknown venue, San Francisco 11 November 1969: WAITING FOR THE MAN; WHITE LIGHT, WHITE HEAT
Lou Reed Demo, Winter 1970: OCEAN
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Well, it SOUNDS promising, IF the rarer songs are as stated. But the recycled stuff?! I think that I will wait for the fan reviews to come in before I shell out the assumed $100, or ?65.
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Hmmm - almost taken in by the hype again!
I'm not convinced this really is the same outfit that did the Dylan sets...
The Ostrich?- come on guys, this has been bootlegged continuously for 30+ years!
So disc 3 is the only one with anything new at all - no more Gymnasium, in fact less Gym than on the vinyl. And these previously unheard Quine tracks? they could easily be reshashed live 69. Will the demo of Ocean be the acoustic home demo? I'd like a good version of that tape in full, but this set is bullshit. Why not just do one CD? The whole 500 copies only crap is annoying too.

Yeah, I'm grouchy, but to me this a big letdown.
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I totally agree with simonm - I just don't think these guys are trying. Remember their last release the BTP stuff promised to be high quality sources but was probably just sourced from dimeadozen.
The third disc 'might' be interesting or it might be just be rehashed Quine/Live 1969 material - but to squeeze 3CDs out of this material is bloody annoying and ripping us off.
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Yes this is really disappointing! Since i heard from this boot some months ago i waas in hope we get someting really special.
But at the moment it seams this set has nothing new.
And the OSTRICH...the time to bootleg this songs are really gone

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he he he he he...

they've certainly sussed out how desperate we are for new stuff haven't they?
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Well after the euphoria of the recent Gymnasium LP I was very disappointed with the tracklists for these three CD?s. I?m not very keen on 3-CD sets anyway unless the quality and content is consistent across the board. And this looks to be very mixed.

I love Sweet Bonnie Brown and would like to hear the rehearsals, but not enough to shell out the extortionate price that Scorpio usually charge. And there are too many 'unknowns'. Rehearsal tapes are interesting as historical documents but it?s not like anyone listens to them more than once or twice.

And as for putting the Ostrich on it. That?s just lazy.

I think the last post has hit the nail on the head. :(
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