We need to track down 'Edna Welthorpe' cos she writes a good & informative set of sleeve notes on the 'End Cole Ave' CD set....
I always thought that bootlegger had a sense of humour.
A Theory on Live 1969 vs Live At End Cole Avenue
This is the sleeve notes for ?End Cole Ave? CDs
"End Cole Avenue was owned by a rich guy who asked only bands he liked to play there. He called the Velvet Underground for two days, 27 and 28 October 1969. For the pleasure of future collectors, a sound engineer happened to be in Dallas in those days, working at a movie production. He got to End Cole Avenue on the 27th and set up his rig at the back of the club. After the first set the VU roadies saw him and his set up and talked to the band. They invited him to come up front and set up. So he set one mike on Lous mike and the other was a stage mike. The second set of the first night was recorded this way as were the two sets the next night. Afterwards he stayed out with the band and had a great time .After the second nights show there was a general jam with the roadies, Moe, Lou all coming in and out of the music. Plus they did two songs right on the mike: Moe and Doug sang alone did ?Rock and Roll? and Lou led a mass choir in ?Lisa Says?. After a while Lou asked for a copy of the tape and was sent a copy of the two sets of the second night which was in part used for ?1969 Live?. The sound engineer got nothing for it, not even recognition, just an impersonal note from Steve Seznick saying "Thank you so much for your interest in the Velvets". After more than 20 years, justice at last!!!"
Printed above was a reproduction of the letter (on Velvet Underground headed paper) from Steve Seznick ? the sound recording guy was called ?Jeff?.
My theory!
Steve Seznick must have been delighted in receiving a recording for nothing (not that it would have made commercial sense to release it in 1970).
He would have made the acetate to listen to it more easily (poss because the tape was given to Lou), Lou /Steve's tape copy got lost, the acetate was used in the 70s to make ?Live 1969?, the record company was lazy and didn't bother to track Jeff down, (it was a budget release) bootleggers track down Jeff in the 90s and use his master tape for End Cole Ave.
"End Cole Avenue was owned by a rich guy who asked only bands he liked to play there. He called the Velvet Underground for two days, 27 and 28 October 1969. For the pleasure of future collectors, a sound engineer happened to be in Dallas in those days, working at a movie production. He got to End Cole Avenue on the 27th and set up his rig at the back of the club. After the first set the VU roadies saw him and his set up and talked to the band. They invited him to come up front and set up. So he set one mike on Lous mike and the other was a stage mike. The second set of the first night was recorded this way as were the two sets the next night. Afterwards he stayed out with the band and had a great time .After the second nights show there was a general jam with the roadies, Moe, Lou all coming in and out of the music. Plus they did two songs right on the mike: Moe and Doug sang alone did ?Rock and Roll? and Lou led a mass choir in ?Lisa Says?. After a while Lou asked for a copy of the tape and was sent a copy of the two sets of the second night which was in part used for ?1969 Live?. The sound engineer got nothing for it, not even recognition, just an impersonal note from Steve Seznick saying "Thank you so much for your interest in the Velvets". After more than 20 years, justice at last!!!"
Printed above was a reproduction of the letter (on Velvet Underground headed paper) from Steve Seznick ? the sound recording guy was called ?Jeff?.
My theory!
Steve Seznick must have been delighted in receiving a recording for nothing (not that it would have made commercial sense to release it in 1970).
He would have made the acetate to listen to it more easily (poss because the tape was given to Lou), Lou /Steve's tape copy got lost, the acetate was used in the 70s to make ?Live 1969?, the record company was lazy and didn't bother to track Jeff down, (it was a budget release) bootleggers track down Jeff in the 90s and use his master tape for End Cole Ave.
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Was that seriously the sleevewriter's name? Lol! Must be a big Joe Orton fan.....bleach wrote:We need to track down 'Edna Welthorpe' cos she writes a good & informative set of sleeve notes on the 'End Cole Ave' CD set....
I always thought that bootlegger had a sense of humour.
"If anyone had a heart
They wouldn't turn around & break it
And if anyone played a part
They wouldn't turn around & fake it"
Lou Reed, 'Sweet Jane', 1970
They wouldn't turn around & break it
And if anyone played a part
They wouldn't turn around & fake it"
Lou Reed, 'Sweet Jane', 1970
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lurid_uk
yes, Jeff ??? (I have his full name somewhere) was the sound engineer who taped the End Cole Ave shows. It happened pretty well as described in the bootleg sleevenotes.
if my memory serves me correctly, all the songs from "Live 1969" which are sourced from ACETATES are from the 4 track tapes made at the Matrix. To the best of my knowledge, no acetates of the End Cole Ave tapes were ever made. The "Live 1969" LP was made using a mix of End Cole Ave (sub-master) tapes and Matrix acetates. The 4 track Matrix tapes are still in teh possession of the guy who owned the club/made them originally.
Make sense? I was peripherally involved in the process which resulted in the End Cole Ave 2CD set - let me know if you have any more questions and I'll try to answer them...
if my memory serves me correctly, all the songs from "Live 1969" which are sourced from ACETATES are from the 4 track tapes made at the Matrix. To the best of my knowledge, no acetates of the End Cole Ave tapes were ever made. The "Live 1969" LP was made using a mix of End Cole Ave (sub-master) tapes and Matrix acetates. The 4 track Matrix tapes are still in teh possession of the guy who owned the club/made them originally.
Make sense? I was peripherally involved in the process which resulted in the End Cole Ave 2CD set - let me know if you have any more questions and I'll try to answer them...