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Just noticed that the some of the bonus tracks on the upcoming Deluxe Edition of the s/t Stooges LP are listed as "John Cale's original mixes". I know Cale produced the first album, did he do the final mixes as well? Also, are their any interviews with Cale on the net where he discusses working with the Stooges?



Rhino Expands Stooges Classics

The Stooges' first two studio albums will be reissued in expanded editions Aug. 16 via Rhino. 1969's "The Stooges" and 1970's "Fun House," which remain landmarks documents of the pre-punk American hard rock, will both feature a second disc's worth of rare tracks.

"The Stooges" includes 10 previously unreleased cuts on its second disc, such as producer John Cale's original mixes of "No Fun," "Little Doll," "I Wanna Be Your Dog" and "1969," a full version of "No Fun" and three alternate vocal takes.

The bonus disc that graces "Fun House" sports material only previously available on the now out-of-print Rhino Handmade release "1970: The Complete Fun House Sessions." This includes demos for "Slide (Slidin' the Blues") and "Lost in the Future" (which did not appear on the original album), single mixes of "1970" and "Down on the Street" and three alternate takes.

Alice Cooper penned the introduction for "The Stooges," while the White Stripes' Jack White did the same for "Fun House." The Stooges only other studio album, 1973's "Raw Power," was reissued in 1997 by Columbia/Legacy.

As previously reported, a host of Stooges material will be found on group leader Iggy Pop's upcoming anthology, "A Million in Prizes." The double-disc set will arrive July 19 via Virgin/EMI Music Catalog Marketing.

~ Billboard.com

I might be mistaken, but in "Please Kill Me," or perhaps "The Dark Stuff," one of the Stooges says that Cale was put in there specifically for his NAME. The Stooges pretty much told him to bugger off.

I'll check when I get home from work!

Chris M wrote:Alice Cooper penned the introduction for "The Stooges," while the White Stripes' Jack White did the same for "Fun House."

So now I need #@%$¤ Jack White to tell me Funhouse is a great album?! How the hell is he worthy?!

No thats not right, Cale definitely worked the desk on the first Stooges record. Iggy has been fairly complimentary of Cales role in the past, saying he was glad Elektra got someone intelligent to do the recordings. There is a also the famous tale of Cale wearing a Vampire cloak every day when the record was being made and Nico annoying Iggy by leaving her knitting on the mixing console. Cale also plays (brilliantly in my opinion) viola on We Will Fall.

In spite of likeing Jack Whites music, apart from the sales element, he's not the right guy to write liner notes for a reissue of Funhouse. Would the Stones let the Black Crowes write the liner notes for an Exile on Main Street reissue ? I think not. But Iggys a greedy bastard these days. The tickets for his gig here in Lucerne are 120 Swiss Francs, what a joke, I wont be going.

Homme Fatale wrote:So now I need #@%$¤ Jack White to tell me Funhouse is a great album?! How the hell is he worthy?!

I hate the idea of "popular" musicians writing liner notes for albums they admire. It makes for either pseudo-intellectual BS or unashamed fan-like drivel. And what the f--- can Alice Cooper tell me about The Stooges? Nothing, I daresay.

Pernod time wrote:In spite of likeing Jack Whites music, apart from the sales element, he's not the right guy to write liner notes for a reissue of Funhouse. Would the Stones let the Black Crowes write the liner notes for an Exile on Main Street reissue ? I think not. But Iggys a greedy bastard these days. The tickets for his gig here in Lucerne are 120 Swiss Francs, what a joke, I wont be going.

I know that Jack has time and again declared Fun House as the greatest Rock record ever. In defense of him, over the last few years he has proven himself to be much more than some dude with a gimmicky color scheme and a one-trick pony of a band. He has done fantastic work for other artists, the standout being the complete ressurrection of Loretta Lynn (her best in nearly 35 years and some argue it to be the greatest of her career - 40 years). His albums are consistently excellent. I would say that he is easily one of the great artists of this generation.

The Black Crowes were pretty much derivative Stones mimics.

If there is anyone who can introduce the Stooges to the young listeners of today, I'd say Jack White is one of the few who qualify.

arjan wrote:

Homme Fatale wrote:So now I need #@%$¤ Jack White to tell me Funhouse is a great album?! How the hell is he worthy?!

I hate the idea of "popular" musicians writing liner notes for albums they admire. It makes for either pseudo-intellectual BS or unashamed fan-like drivel. And what the f--- can Alice Cooper tell me about The Stooges? Nothing, I daresay.

I don't care for the White Stripes and they probably should have just taken the liner notes from the Funhouse Box and abbreviated them instead of getting Jack to tell us what we already know. If this guy has any talent, he's yet to prove it.

Alice Cooper however does make some sense because he . . . um . . . they . . . um (when the hell did Alice Cooper change from the name of the band to the name of the singer?) were contemporaries of the Stooges and their first few albums, although not yet recognized by everyone, are classics in their genre and he probably played some shows with them back in the day. I'm sure they ran into each other at the Whiskey.

The bonuses seem a little lackluster. Is that really all there is? No live stuff? No radio shows?

Technophallus wrote:The bonuses seem a little lackluster. Is that really all there is? No live stuff? No radio shows?

I don't there is any live stuff at all from the Elektra period save for a very low fi aud tape or two.

That's a shame, some of these "deluxe" editions are better than others. Pearl was recently released in deluxe form and it was full of great stuff.