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Hi all,

As I mentioned in one of my posts on the sister ray thread, I was going to upload a copy of this album. It's meant to have a completely different mix - slightly drier than the 'closet' version.

Original vinyl > WAV > Flac level 8 compression

Quite a few clicks and crackles, especially during Candy Says. I could upload a cleaned up version but I thought I'd share the original and you can do what you like BUT if you're gonna share this again make sure it's shared complete and unchanged

Anyway, the tracker page is http://www.wdgaf.com:81/index.php

You'll have to join the tracker I'm afraid.

My upload speed is not the greatest so I hope you'll all help out with this

What exactly is this? More info please!

see http://members.aol.com/olandem5/odlpus.html and check out the details for the 3rd album

olandem says it's a 'drier' mix from the others, and this is the only available copy of it, ripped straight from the vinyl

very interesting. I just jumped on it.
But what i this tracker site? They have everything, from XXX to games. Very strange....
Thanks so much for this! (I mean the VU, not the XXX)

yes sorry for the tracker, but i'm pretty sure easytree wouldn't accept this so I had to find a tracker that would.

I'm not encouraging anyone to dl anything else

I have the impression that Murder Mystery stops too early? Any idea?

That's what it's like on the record - the most noticable difference.
I've noticed that there's a few seconds of inserted silence near the end which somehow crept in there ... I'll torrent a fixed version later today.

upsetter wrote:see http://members.aol.com/olandem5/odlpus.html and check out the details for the 3rd album

olandem says it's a 'drier' mix from the others, and this is the only available copy of it, ripped straight from the vinyl

It actually says "offers Lou's closet mix, but a different mastering, a dryer sound than the yellow label promo or any of the stock issues."

I don't know what a "dryer sound" means, but how different is it from the normal mastering, or remastering, whichever came first.

Mastering makes a lot of difference - in the case of an LP it's the cutting of the master from which the stampers are made, and bass and treble (to simplify) are adjustable at this stage. The depth of the grooves also has some relevance - deeper grooves = louder, big bassy sound.
White labels were intended for radio play so were mastered brighter normally, in the 60s, so the sound cuts through more easily when heard on the radio. I imagine this is what O means by drier. The closet mix isn't very radio friendly.
The white label would be the same mix, but eq'd differently - reducing the muddy low frequencies, probably allowing a few higher frequencies that are buried in the mix to be heard more clearly, like the clicky rimshots in Story Of My Life...

Hi, Upsetter
First of all.. thank you!!!!

Murder Mystery though, isn't a bit shorter (as in the difference between the two mixes kind-of-shorter... it looks like there's a problem in the FLAC file and it cuts off about 4 minuutes early, and causes all sorts of misbehavior on whatever program one uses to open it. If you're re-torrenting, though, I presume this will fix the problem .

Now, um, mono WLWH anyone...?