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Cleveland 1968-10-04 - Bill Allerton's incomplete copy

Posted: 04 Nov 2025 13:25
by lurid
I'll put a link to it below. I think it runs slightly fast - if someone with a good ear can tell me how much to slow it down than I'll do it and re-post it.

The tracks are in the order that they appeared on Bill's C-45 cassette and despite what it says on the inlay card, "Sweet Bonnie Brown" is nowhere to be found!

VELVET UNDERGROUND 1968-10-04 Cleveland incomplete audience recording BA copy

La Cave
Cleveland
1968-10-04

01: What Goes On 5.41
02: Foggy Notion 10.40
03: I'm Waiting For The Man 6.07
04: Sister Ray 10.45

Lou Reed: guitar, vocals
Sterling Morrison: guitar
Doug Yule: bass, organ, vocals
Moe Tucker: drums

lineage: TDK D C45 cassette from the collection of Bill Allerton - Pioneer CT-S670D player - wav - flac

wav transfer October 2025 by lurid_uk

RIP Lou, Sterling and Bill

the audio link: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/byg1i35e ... ijxnk&dl=0

Re: Cleveland 1968-10-04 - Bill Allerton's incomplete copy

Posted: 04 Nov 2025 22:06
by Mark
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Re: Cleveland 1968-10-04 - Bill Allerton's incomplete copy

Posted: 04 Nov 2025 23:24
by falconwhit
Hi Gordon, this one is one semitone too fast, about 5.62% to 6%

Re: Cleveland 1968-10-04 - Bill Allerton's incomplete copy

Posted: 05 Nov 2025 09:11
by lurid
thanks!

It's odd - so several of Bill's cassettes are maybe a semitone fast but others are pretty well correct. That tells me that at least one of the folks who was sending him copies of things had a poorly calibrated/set up cassette player. We'll never know now.

Over the years I must have transferred and digitised well over 500 cassettes containing Lou/VU live recordings. It's a fair bet that many of those cassettes have passed through "less then perfect" players and are at the wrong speed. But unless it's really obvious, does it matter? (I'm pretty sure my player is ok - I had it professionally serviced and tested within the last 2 years. It's about 25 years old now but the guy said it was in fine shape.)

I use "Wavepad" to process the captured .wav files and it has a very easy to use speed/pitch correct function.

This is really a first world problem, isn't it?
falconwhit wrote: 04 Nov 2025 23:24 Hi Gordon, this one is one semitone too fast, about 5.62% to 6%

Re: Cleveland 1968-10-04 - Bill Allerton's incomplete copy

Posted: 06 Nov 2025 00:07
by Mark
Thanks very much for posting. I think you were right - it's not as good sounding as some other copies of this one that circulate. Worth a try though!