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9 LP Loaded Box (nothing new...)
Posted: 22 Feb 2023 21:16
by hkmartin
https://www.rhino.com/article/the-velve ... inyl-debut
As far as I can tell, none of this is previously unreleased, though some has not been released on vinyl before.
No word on whether the speed errors in the live shows recently discussed have been corrected.
Re: 9 LP Loaded Box (nothing new...)
Posted: 22 Feb 2023 22:23
by iaredatsun
'Loaded Box (nothing new...)'
It's a good title for a box set.
Re: 9 LP Loaded Box (nothing new...)
Posted: 22 Feb 2023 22:37
by Mark
For me the highlight of the original release of that set is the stereo fold down of the 5:1 mix. Probably the best version of Loaded, full stop, in my opinion. And of course they've not included it here. Pass.
Re: 9 LP Loaded Box (nothing new...)
Posted: 23 Feb 2023 22:47
by falconwhit
Willing to bet $$ that the speed error has not been fixed, otherwise they would have highlighted it. "For the first time, at the correct speed!".
Also the entire sets slowed down would require a 3xlp set, it's too long for a double lp.
We'll have to wait for the 60th anniversary I suppose.
I did order the set for the mono LP, as that's the way I prefer to listen to Loaded, to me it sounds more compact, in your face, and less messy than the stereo mix.
Re: 9 LP Loaded Box (nothing new...)
Posted: 24 Feb 2023 10:17
by iaredatsun
falconwhit wrote: ↑23 Feb 2023 22:47
Willing to bet $$ that the speed error has not been fixed, otherwise they would have highlighted it. "For the first time, at the correct speed!".
Also the entire sets slowed down would require a 3xlp set, it's too long for a double lp.
We'll have to wait for the 60th anniversary I suppose.
I did order the set for the mono LP, as that's the way I prefer to listen to Loaded, to me it sounds more compact, in your face, and less messy than the stereo mix.
There's no way I'm buying this, but elsewhere I have asked the producer of the box whether speed error on Max's has been fixed. Will post response here if I get one
Re: 9 LP Loaded Box (nothing new...)
Posted: 26 Feb 2023 07:51
by iaredatsun
Jason at Rhino didn’t seem to want to address the Max’s speed question directly, but what he did say in response, was that they had respected the mastering decisions made by the production team when they made the 45th anniversary Loaded box. In more explicit terms, this must mean that they have not fixed the speed issue of the Max’s tape.
I’ll post this reply as Jason has just reiterated it:
It's the same as the 2015 version, which was the version approved by everyone associated with the band and their estate(s).
I'll say it again:
I wanted to honor the work of original box set producer Bill Levenson, who has done so much for the VU legacy since 1984, and the work of the original mastering engineer who oversaw the original 2015 box, Kevin Reeves. They did a great job in 2015 and I am honored to showcase that work again as a part of this new box.
Re: 9 LP Loaded Box (nothing new...)
Posted: 26 Feb 2023 20:25
by DavidH
That's pretty disappointing, and with respect to Jason, I think it's down to nobody realising there was an error (which is odd - it's been known for a long time). It's not like Brigid was using old batteries in her tape recorder as an artistic decision. I think I'll wait until there's a record which sounds closer to what it sounded like in the club.
Re: 9 LP Loaded Box (nothing new...)
Posted: 27 Feb 2023 04:10
by falconwhit
iaredatsun wrote: ↑26 Feb 2023 07:51
Jason at Rhino didn’t seem to want to address the Max’s speed question directly, but what he did say in response, was that they had respected the mastering decisions made by the production team when they made the 45th anniversary Loaded box. In more explicit terms, this must mean that they have not fixed the speed issue of the Max’s tape.
I’ll post this reply as Jason has just reiterated it:
It's the same as the 2015 version, which was the version approved by everyone associated with the band and their estate(s).
I'll say it again:
I wanted to honor the work of original box set producer Bill Levenson, who has done so much for the VU legacy since 1984, and the work of the original mastering engineer who oversaw the original 2015 box, Kevin Reeves. They did a great job in 2015 and I am honored to showcase that work again as a part of this new box.
Absolutely not surprised.
Re: 9 LP Loaded Box (nothing new...)
Posted: 27 Feb 2023 10:50
by MartinVU
DavidH wrote: ↑26 Feb 2023 20:25
It's not like Brigid was using old batteries in her tape recorder as an artistic decision.
Based on the answer above it wouldn't surprise me if Rhino wants to "honor the original taper". Is he also saying they are using the "original" 2015 cd mastering for the vinyl? My money is on the bootleggers in this exciting speed race
I'm not loaded enough to buy this box-set but wouldn't mind having disk 4 (more or less the Head Held High bootleg?) with those beautiful versions of Ocean and Ride Into The Sun.
Re: 9 LP Loaded Box (nothing new...)
Posted: 01 Mar 2023 20:40
by lurid
I certainly won't be buying this. My interest is in the music, and there's nothing here that I don't have in one form or another....