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Ultra Rare Trax Vol. 1 on this vine is mp3-sourced

When I tested the Ultra Rare Trax, I only tested one of 'em because they were all from the same guy, so I just assumed they were all good.

By the way, before you call me an idiot for advocating lossless when I can't even tell the deifference: I haven't even listened to Ultra Rare Trax Vol. 1 yet...I take my time with my bootlegs.

I was wondering why the Ultra Rare Trax files were .shn files instead of .flac files.

But, I'm not going to slam you over it. You were gracious enough to provide a TON of great stuff to those of us who were needy. So what if a few mp3's got included by accident.

I'm just grateful to Groovy for sharing so much wonderful stuff with us.

You the man Groovy!!! (BTW... what happened to Kim Jong Il?)

tarbaby2 wrote:You the man Groovy!!! (BTW... what happened to Kim Jong Il?)

The forum colors didn't go with him

[And they don't really go with my current one...]

how can I get in on this?

You audiphiles... I still think the lossless files are nothing but extra hassle with the huge file sizes. I would've been happy with all the stuff as mp3s. But that's just me.

Sorry, there's a bit of a delay with posting this:

The vine has recently been posted and it's on it's way over to Canada. Not sure how long it will take to arrive though.

I'd also like to point out that there's a bunch of redundancy in the vine. For instance:

The entire Afterhours tape #32 is included, but the only thing on it that makes it worth including is that version of What Goes On--the only existing recording from a certain La Cave date (too lazy to look it up). Everything else on AT32 is on the vine elsewhere--in COMPLETE form (AT32 is just a compilation of recordings from different dates--the fans of this forum so kindly went and torrented the true rarities--the fan-circulated concert tapes....thanks guys!); in BETTER quality!

And I should've converted those SHNs to FLACs (the format which has supersceded SHN)

I'm also concerned about the fact that some people kept the originals and made copies for themselves.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying you're expected to know that or anything...it's my fault for not specifying that....

There's always the possibility of errors when it comes to burning:

- Poorly manufactured discs can mess things up

- Burners can mess up (but they've improved over the years)

- Your computer can mess things up (this is only if the computer interrupts the burner--like if you're doing a million things during the burn)

As far as I know, the biggest concern is the discs

So, scour the planet for the esoteric Taiyo-Yudens (hands down the most reliable--and incredibly reliable at that...talkin' 100 years), but most importantly:

Pass the originals on and let the copies be for yourself

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In case anyone needs this cleared up:

digital IS an exact science

An audio file LITERALLY boils down to a unique, specific combination of numbers....if you have enough numbers you can make a song...

So, because digital is an "exact science", digital media is absolute. Meaning: there's no such thing as quality variation or anything like that

ALL OR NOTHING

What I'm saying is you don't have to worry about any of your particular files ever undergoing any type of change (with the exception of corruption...like an HD crash or whatever....and even then, things can be salvaged)

It either works or it doesn't (and when it doesn't, it's called "corruption")

As far as burning goes: a messed up burn could be called a "Corrupt burn"

I just wanted to re-assure everyone that despite that fact that you're getting sixth-generation burned discs, everything is still THEORETICALLY the same. As long as none of the things I mentioned messed up (burner, discs, computer)--as long as the burn was successful--"you're good".

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On a last note, I'd like to take the opportunity to introduce you to something amazing that I've discovered



The MD5

MD5 is a type of checksum: it basically allows you to instantly know whether or not ANY file on your computer has been the victim of corruption! You designate the files you want to create the MD5 for (designate your whole harddrive!)--the creation process is extremely quick--a full album in FLAC form might take about 1 minute--and after it's created you have it at your disposal to check your files.

You can do this all with Trader's Little Helper....some paranoid bootleg collector introduced the MD5 to the audio community (that's MY guess).

Too lazy to make a nice little pictorial on how to create and verify MD5s, sorry (but it's easy, trust me):

this is the address to the TLH page:

http://thor.prohosting.com/roh0205/

Oh and how could I forget? My biggest qualm of all!

The gaps

This vine isn't anything definitive--it's my personal collection

You guys basically have a clone of my personal collection

Do you see A WALK WITH THE VELVET UNDERGROUND VOL. 2

anywhere on the vine? Nope...

I'm disappointed that it's incomplete. It's ALMOST there. I've provided you guys with almost the entire bootleg VU discography, but NOT QUITE....which kinda sucks

Hey Groovy, I don't think it sucks at all!. You've given us a TON of music that a lot of us would never have gotten otherwise (at least not all in one fell swoop).

I, FOR ONE AM very GRATEFUL FOR HAVING ALL THE GREAT MUSIC TO LISTEN TO. (forgot caps lock was on )

Anyway, I'm sure all of us will appreciate anything else you might be able to provide.