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I made a phone call to someone and it's not even known about in the UMG London offices. And, naturally, they have a database of all up and coming releases. I will get told when there's news.

Judging from the dates of the recordings .
We are sure that there is also Follow the leader ? It was performed on November 27

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/velv ... 6-65873649

The article seems to say that there are still many things unprecedented of the Cale era. Is a real news ?

Andre83 wrote:http://dangerousminds.net/comments/velv ... 6-65873649

The article seems to say that there are still many things unprecedented of the Cale era. Is a real news ?

I'm not sure they say anything about the Cale era there. He writes 'And not just a little, but a lot of primo vintage VU white light, white heat recorded in high fidelity' - which surely just refers to the upcoming Matrix material?

I wish there was.

Thank you. I knew I had better study English when I was a kid

Andre83 wrote:Thank you. I knew I had better study English when I was a kid

But, to be honest, the way he writes 'vintage VU white light, white heat' is a bit misleading.

Andre83 wrote:Judging from the dates of the recordings .
We are sure that there is also Follow the leader ? It was performed on November 27

I'm very skeptical about the dates listed on both The Quine Tapes and the new Matrix Tapes set. No offense to the compilers of either set, but the circumstances of their recording (not complete shows, but personal favorite performances) wouldn't seem to necessaarily lend themselves to accurate record keeping. Unless one (or both) of them was completely anal retentive about that sort of thing.

As it stands, the Quine and Matrix dates don't match up, on those instances where they share a performance ("Sister Ray" stands out here).

And then of course there is the 'uncirculated tape' referenced on Olivier's site which, if it captures the same performance of Sister Ray, rather supports Quine's date. The stars must have been in alignment for that performance if it was captured by 3 separate people.

December 3, 1969

Tape: audience recording by Robert Quine. Source: The Quine Tapes - Disc 2 (1).

Sister Ray (38:00)

Tape: audience reel-to-reel recording from alternate source, two sets recorded. Status: uncirculated.

First set:

Waiting For The Man
Good Time Together
Some Kinda Love
Pale Blue Eyes
Beginning To See The Light
I'm Set Free
Heroin

Second set:

There She Goes Again
Here I Go Again
Lisa Says
After Hours
I'm Sticking With You
The New Age
Sweet Jane
Ride Into The Sun [credited as Right Into The Son]
Here Come The Wave
Sister Ray [encore]

Amazon US moved the release date again. Now Nov. 13.

The 'dangerousminds' link above says that the original tapes had been sold to an Italian collector by the sound engineer - this is the first I'd heard of this - is it true? Pretty curious to know.