Velvet's Genuine Bootleg Series

[Spacemen3]

There appears to be 2 different versions of this floating around. One that is previously mentioned as Velvet Underground - Dispatches from the Dream Factory that I found as a torrent on Dimeadozen. Then there is one that I am dl'in' now from Pirates Bay. It is called All Tomorrow's Parties. I remember awhile ago there use to be a Velvet Underground Forum site that someone calling herself Rosie Lee was also a member. She would post the second disc mentioned one song at a time. One a week in crappy lossy format. I posted a reply to her stating that she really should post in lossless if she was at all concerned about sharing w/ other fans.......... guess she complained that I was out of line as I received a real nice e-mail from the moderator to keep my big trap shut or I was going to blow it for everyone......... I persisted in my posts & was subsequently banned. It looks like the torrent on Pirates Bay is (finally) a lossless copy in which Rosie Lee's copy came from. (Funny, she is even mentioned in the post.) My ?'s are..........

1) Would this happen to be the same V.U. Forum as I was already banned from? If so LMK & I will sign out ...... not to return. (It does not look like it ...... but things change.......)
2) Which boot sources another boot? (I.E. which came first? Dispatches or All Tomorrow's?)
3) Both have different line up's of tracks? Which is correct? Or is a conglomorate of discs in order to flesh out a complete version. (Looks like one is more complete then the other...... but are those tracks in common the same versions?)

(Pirates Bay)
The Velvet Underground
Title: All Tomorrow's Parties

Lineage: Master Warhol Museum CD -> CD(gen1) -> .wav -> CD(gen2) -> .aiff -> .flac (level 8)

01. Walk Alone
02. Venus In Furs/Crackin' Up
03. Rythm & Blues Instrumental
04. Run Run Run into Miss Joanie Lee
05. Day Tripper into Boom Boom Boom
06. Rockabilly Instrumental
07. Blues Instrumental
08. Heroin
09. There She Goes Again
10. Green Onions
11. There She Goes Again
12. Heroin
13. I'll Keep It With Mine
14. European Son/Suzie Q
15. Get It On Time
16. I'll Be Your Mirror

01-11: rehearsals, The Factory, January 3, 1966
12-14: Up-tight, The Cinematheque, New York City, February 6, 1966
15-16: rehearsals, The Factory, March 7, 1966

This is the unedited, unfiltered, full-file All Tomorrows Parties bootleg. Here is the story...

Back in the prehistoric days, before torrents and FTP, was this thing called "trading CD's thru the mail." One of the guys who
I traded with said he had something very special if I'd like to hear it, on the condition that I never trade it until he said it was OK to.
He sent me this! Someone who had access to the CD recorded it and made a copy for himself and a friend. That friend made me a copy,
which is where these files were extracted from.

Now, I dated this really strange chick for a while after meeting her one night after a gig in Luxembourg. Many of you know her as Rosie Lee.
She was in a band called the Fluffernutter Devices and was a HUGE fan of the VU. She asked if she could have a copy of this disc, so I
converted it so she could play it on her portable player on her band's van. It was this lossy copy that made it onto the site a while back
and it was from these lossy tracks that Nothing Songs put out one of their bullshite compilations.

(I'd like to point out that quite some time ago, just before I met Rosie actually, the person who provided me this disk stated that it was OK
to circulate it.)

So, anyone who purchased the Nothing Songs set containing these tracks is actually listening to MP3's converted to MP4's. I saw some idiot
paid over $100 on ePay for a bootleg of these tracks. What an idiot!

Anyways, here ya go. As far as my VU "vaults" are concerned, this is it. I have nothing else to give the community. For anyone who is
hiding recordings deep in their basement, why not share the wealth? What good is a recording if you are the only person who can enjoy it?
Why not share it and let hundreds of other people hum along with you?!

Originally uploaded by MG196
Reuploaded by Roofvogel to www.velvetunderground.be

(Dimeadozen)

DISPATCHES FROM THE DREAM FACTORY PART 1

Erupting Plastic Inevitable:

3CD
Scorpio GPS9
May 2008
SILVER CD --> EAC --> FLAC

Disc 1:

01. Walk Alone (2:25)
02. Miss Joanie Lee (11:50)
03. Heroin (6:21)
04. There She Goes Again (3:12)
05. Get It On Time (2:21)
06. I'll Keep It With Mine (3:40)
07. European Son
08. Susie Q (4:12)
09. Heroin (6:26)
10. Venus In Furs (4:30)
11. Waiting For The Man (4:11)
12. European Son (8:54)
13. All Tomorrows Parties (5:54)
14. Heroin (5:16)
15. Venus In Furs (3:23)
16. The Ostrich (2:32) ***OMMITED***

1-5: rehearsals, Andy Warhol's Factory, New York City NY, January 3, 1966
6: rehearsals, Andy Warhol's Factory, New York City, NY, March 7, 1966
7-8: Film-Makers' Cinematheque, New York City NY, February 6, 1966
9-13: Scepter Studios, New York City NY, April 1966
14-15: Poor Richard's, Chicago IL, June 23, 1966
16: The Primitives 45, 1964

4) Both torrents are posted in FLAC...... does anyone have access to programs & have an eye for telling if both of there are truely lossless wav. files? (After conversion from FLAC of course.........)

Any reply (even if it is BUZZ OFF would be helpful.) Thank you for your time.....

Spacemen3

[simonm]

questions questions

>1) Would this happen to be the same V.U. Forum as I was already banned from? If so LMK & I will sign out ...... not to return. (It does not look >like it ...... but things change.......)

I don't know about anyone being banned, but this was where Rosie Lee held us to ransom years ago. Search on the word lossless and you might find some of your old posts.

the ATP disc on PB is not a rip from a bootleg at all - the full text clearly claims it to be copied from the Warhol museum's master from the VU exhbition of the same name from the 90s.

If there is absoloutely no difference in audio quality between track 7 and the rest, this claim could be true, if track 7 sounds different to the rest, it's not.

The Scorpio set only came out this year, I haven't heard it

[bleach]

Simon, those bootlegges are simple cheap skates so they want sources they can get for free aka the mp4s via this forum postings. The source from the museum may have been turned into mp3/4 but does exist as lossless.