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I don't think WL/WH is a different mix either, but it still sounds GREAT in mono IMO.

I'm with Simon on this one. When I play WL/WH I nearly always turn to the mono. I know that Sister Rays is "just folded stereo" but it blasts and sounds better to me than that stereo.

So Loaded is the same mix too? I thought it was subtly different - esp on rock n roll: the wah wah wah waaaaah waaaaaah guitar sounded as if it has a different treatment making it smoother and less guitary sounding and the weird disconcerting screaming thing that Lou does jumps right out at you; other things here and there, but I'll bow to anyone with superior knowledge of this kind of thing

WL/WH (the track) does sound different to me - louder backing vocals, quieter drums compared to the single version, which would appear to be a straight stereo fold.

Haven't done a proper comparison yet, but will try and do so soon.

Mark wrote: Haven't done a proper comparison yet, but will try and do so soon.

I'll give em a spin tonight too - it hadn't ocurred to me to compare the single with the album version...

To my ears, WL/WH is a different mix - listen to the first second or two of the song... In the stereo mix, Someone sings "white light" on one channel, and comes in a bit late compared to the group vocals in the other channel- they're certainly not in sync. You can't hear this at all in the mono - all of the vocals in the first line of the song are in-sync.

dsulpy wrote:In the stereo mix, Someone sings "white light" on one channel, and comes in a bit late compared to the group vocals ....

ok - I answered this on a new thread - you'll be thrilled at my conclusions, I'm sure of it.

S

Ok, I've compared the Loaded single and hear nothing different from the stereo LP when folded to mono.

As for WL/WH LP, I do feel that the mono is a slightly different mix. Nothing real major to point out, but certain things seemed to be mixed louder/softer between the stereo & mono. Best examples I've found are Lou's vocals in Godiva are mixed to the same level as Cale's in the mono and much louder than Cale's in the stereo. Also on Here She Comes Now, the drumming seems mixed louder and with extra reverb on the mono, while Lou's vocals sound louder on the stereo. Just little things like that, but I do think it's a different mix. At least for side 1. I've always heard side 2 is just a stereo fold down and that seems to be very possible from my comparing.

The WL/WH single sounds like the same mix to me as the mono LP.

What's interesting on the WL/WH LP to me is the mono mixes are lot like what my own mono mix sounds like (I'm sure we've all played producer on this one). Much more equal balance of instruments than if you just folded the stereo into one channel - the drums on "Here She Comes Now" and the apeshit guitar solo on "I Heard Her Call My Name" are good examples. Do we have proof that this is from an actual acetate or someone's own reconstuction?

It's great, either way - MUCH more enjoyable experience. Many, many thanks to everyone who made this possible!