Warhol Tapes

ractrader · Post by **ractrader** » 15 May 2004 23:52

Ferges, you rock too, of course.

Chance · Post by **Chance** » 16 May 2004 02:09

ferges wrote:P.S. This women is mad. She forces me to do bad things

Strike, dear Mistress, and cure his heart.

lostblues · Post by **lostblues** » 16 May 2004 12:12

ferges wrote:if you want to see track 4, there must be 90 registered members on the forum.

and 90 we have now

lostblues · Post by **lostblues** » 17 May 2004 14:42

the playing time of above titles doesn´t quite match those mentioned on Oliviers site? Is this maybe a different source?!

Rosie Lee UK · Post by **Rosie Lee UK** » 17 May 2004 15:19

Guest is not smart. Register. I am Rosie Lee. You do not know me. Source is same. There is only one source. If you put a store bought CD in your player, the times will also vary from the tracklist's. Each device (car player, computer, discman) reads the tracks slightly differently. Some devices actually count several seconds into the following track.

I know much about music and the technology of sound. I am Rosie Lee. You make me mad. I try to give Ferges track 4 but is very large so some trouble is happening. I try very hard. Do not say bad things or I disappear. Guest is not nice.

jimjim · Post by **jimjim** » 17 May 2004 15:42

Guys, lets give Rosie some respect here. She is providing us with some amazing material that hasn't seen the light of day since it was recorded and all we are doing is driving her away with insults. To paraphrase Shakespeare, 'Let us come to praise her not bury her'.

Rosie, as a fan and a head of another VU group on Yahoo (jimjims) I apologize on behalf of some of the mugs here. They are not representative of all Velvet Underground fans. For those like myself who are really enjoying these tracks, we thank you for your effort and hope more are to come.

Sean (aka jimjim)

Rosie Lee UK · Post by **Rosie Lee UK** » 17 May 2004 16:22

Thank You JimJim you are nice. You do not know me.

I like VU very much and all fans are friends of mine. I cook my little boy cookies with VU in m&m's. This makes him smile and I smile upon all VU fans. I not turn around to fake it.

Rosie

rnranimal · Post by **rnranimal** » 17 May 2004 18:22

Thank you very much for these tracks, Rosie Lee!!!

I may have a suggestion that could help in getting that large file smaller w/o loosing quality. In iTunes, under "importing" select "custom". Keep the bitrate at 128, but change the "channels" to mono. This will actually encode the file at 64, but looses no quality nor information as compared to encoding these tracks at 128 stereo (as the tracks are actually mono) and will cut the file size in half. Hope this helps.

Post by **ferges** » 17 May 2004 19:42

i doubt if the AAC/MP4 format encodes right and left channels separately. so i think the difference between mono and stereo will be unnoticeable [edit] in size.

rnranimal · Post by **rnranimal** » 17 May 2004 20:12

Ferges, not sure what you mean. Unnoticeable in sound, yes. But in file size, mono will be half. I've been playing around with iTunes for some time and can assure you of what I described above will work. AAC is a great choice for the format, btw. Much better than MP3 at 128, especially in iTunes which isn't so good at MP3.

AAC shows up in iTunes as true stereo and as far as I can tell, does encode each channel separately (rather than joint stereo, like some MP3 - where it compares right/left channels and throws out common info). I've been encoding my Beatles CDs to AAC and for the first 4 albums, which are in mono, I use the setting as I described above and I get file sizes half the size of doing them in stereo (or "auto", which just means that iTunes will treat the encoded file just as the original file - so all CDs will be done in stereo even if the music is mono. iTunes does no checking of the signal to see the differences between right/left info.) and sound quality remained the same. Even though you set the iTunes encoder to 128, if you select mono it will actually produce a 64 bitrate mono file. If you have iTunes, give it a try. Take a song you know is mono ("I'll Be Your Mirror" from the 1st VU album for example is mono on all releases - only the hiss is stereo : ). Under iTunes, AAC custom encode set bitrate to 128. Do one with channels set to auto, one set to mono and one set to auto. You'll find that the auto & stereo will be exactly the same in size and quality. The mono will be half the size of those 2 as well as the same quality. Sorry, didn't mean to get all techie on everyone, just wanted to help.

Lew