The Velvet Forum

Stephen Says wrote:What does "h" stand for? I only know AM and PM.

h = hours (perhaps not standard notation in English). So, 9:00h MET means "9 o'clock in the morning, continental European time" (give or take half an hour).

Jesus, enough with the SQUEEZE album tracks already.

lmao

arjan wrote:

radiofreesimulacrum wrote:Just for reference. Does this mean that for example Ocean(1969/V.U.) will be voted on and not Ocean(P.S.A.S.) even though they're lyricly different

No, it's the (admittedly Platonic ideal form of the) song that's voted on. Think of its best/most appealing form when you're voting, whether that be the 1969 live version or the 1970 Fully Loaded demo or whatever you want, really.

In addition to this comment I repost my message from elsewhere in case it got buried:

Many of the extra songs on Fully Loaded were completely undeveloped and seemingly pretty week at that time and this just goes to show that you cannot neccessarily judge a song from a particular recording. If the velvets had gone on to work up Love Makes You Feel, Wild Child, Walk it, Lisa Says, Satellite into anything like the versions they were to become (on Reed's early solo albums) then those songs would have stood a better chances in this contest.

Ride Into The Sun exists as some half-developed ideas but if the beautiful instrumental version from Another View had had the vocals added I think we might re-address our opinions of it.

Whilst 'Love Makes You Feel' is probably not up there with the best I think that this does illustrate the point that we are probably basing our decisions on extant and particular VU recordings NOT the songs in themselves. This seems to support the idea that a song is not just the written music and lyric but is also tied to notions of performance and recording. Otherwise how could a beautifully written song like Beginining to See the Light lose out against the sonic delights of European Son which is actually probably much weaker (non-existant) as a song? (Imagine European Son played on acoustic instruments!) Of course, I voted for European Son, too, because its stunning piece of music/sound/art and captures an aspect made VU historically unique.

Time I guess to un-sticky this thread...