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Right, the one discussed here - viewtopic.php?f=1&t=146158&p=180140

I'd forgotten about that!

Hopefully this means the rest of the recording is on the way.

Thank you very mutch Ms Rayon

sm7609 wrote: ↑20 Nov 2023 18:07 This would be Provincetown, MA, September 1966.

I was thinking about asking the organization that owns the tape for a copy, but I will assume this is no longer necessary. Yay!

Not that I'm in a position to disagree, but what makes you think it's from the Provincetown gig?

Oh, it's from the same tape referenced in the post above. I've heard it at the Smithsonian. Definitely Provincetown. This surfaced earlier this year. There's a write-up about it inn the latest edition of Richie Unterberger's book.

it's not Provincetown, I was told its from W Virginia somewhere, Morgantown, and there's not much of it. From a friend of a friend. If you/we call it Provincetown, it could put them in a difficult position. call it Morgantown and you get sone more

Morgantown it is!

Yes, definitely Morgantown!

So does Unterberger give much detail on what the rest of this show at... Morgantown... is like? Is it the full gig? How listenable is the rest of it? I'm guessing that as Little Sister is a fairly quiet song it doesn't suffer as badly from the distortion as some of the others?

Side thought: I'm beginning get the impression that late 1966 was maybe the peak of Nico's contribution to the band. As well as the Banana songs, we now know she was singing Little Sister on stage (and apparently Sunday Morning too), and contributing to the improvisations - there are even photos of her playing piano at gigs. You could even go as far as to say this was the peak of this version of the band working as a unit. Listen to the Gymnasium show six months later and so much of this has gone - no Nico, not much experimentation or prettiness, it's largely become Lou's show by then. Obviously the roaring guitars and general insanity of WLWH was great too, but in a parallel universe maybe there's an interesting second VU&N album inbetween the two:

Little Sister
Sunday Morning (imagining for a moment that this didn't make it onto the first album - it was a late addition after all)
Wrap Your Troubles in Dreams
It Was a Pleasure Then (and / or something that reflects the long weird improv pieces they were doing at this point)
Chelsea Girls
I'm Not a Young Man Anymore
Guess I'm Falling in Love
It's Alright The Way That You Live
I'm Not Too Sorry Now That You've Gone
Ondine

I'd buy it!

Mark wrote: ↑21 Nov 2023 12:30 So does Unterberger give much detail on what the rest of this show at... Morgantown... is like? Is it the full gig? How listenable is the rest of it? I'm guessing that as Little Sister is a fairly quiet song it doesn't suffer as badly from the distortion as some of the others?

According to Olivier's site they played Morgantown on 5 Nov 66, the night after the Valleydale gig. There is a 15 min tape listed in WGO - maybe's that's exactly what this is?