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Re: Sound excerpts from interview with John Cale, 1966 September

Posted: 21 Mar 2024 18:49
by lurid
I've had this for a while and have been trying to figure out the true order (without much success). I do think that the person being interviewed at (first file track 8) is actually Sterling Morrison. Anyone agree (or disagree?).
Mark wrote: 21 Mar 2024 17:34 Awesome! Thank you for this

Gig setlist then -

First file:
1. I'll Be Your Mirror (beginning and end cut)
2. I'm Not a Youngman Anymore (end cut)
3. Little Sister (end cut)
4. All Tomorrow's Party (beginning slightly cut)
5. Venus in Furs
6. Black Angel's Death Song
7. Heroin
8. two people chatting while the Hedy film is playing in the background

2nd file:
1min 47 sec of indistinct talking

3rd file:
Indisctinct talking and singing over a PA while a record plays in the background (soundcheck?). Extremely distorted and modulated.Is this the audio from the Hedy film??
At 9 minutes a women is heard describing what can be seen
At 17.40 she states that "the live musicians are now beginning to play in the background" as the film goes on
MC introduces the VU and Nico, with a plug for their sponsored mod shirts
At 20.30 the gig proper starts:
1. I'll Be Your Mirror, voice over describing what's going on.
2. I'm Not a Youngman Anymore (Nico introduces it. More distorted than on the first tape)
3. extremely distorted instrumental / feedback
4. Little Sister (again very distorted, cuts before end)

4th file:
Conversation with John Cale - 17 mins
8 minute silence
5 minutes from Hedy soundtrack (very distorted again)


The conversation with Cale does make it clear that the recordings were made over two nights - the 3rd file being from the first, and then the 4th being recorded before the show on the second night.

So basically we've got approx half an hour of new live VU here, plus an audio verite insight into what a night with the EPI sounded and looked like. Pretty cool!

Re: Sound excerpts from interview with John Cale, 1966 September

Posted: 21 Mar 2024 20:11
by peppergomez
Thanks to all for these
Venus in Furs sounds vicious

Re: Sound excerpts from interview with John Cale, 1966 September

Posted: 21 Mar 2024 20:36
by peppergomez
It still makes me laugh at how completely unprepared audiences were for this level of sonic violence in 1966. Like lambs to the slaughter

It's also funny how academically it's treated by the woman recording it. No wonder the band got tired of playing as part of an art show.

Re: Sound excerpts from interview with John Cale, 1966 September

Posted: 21 Mar 2024 20:46
by peppergomez
lurid wrote: 21 Mar 2024 18:49 I've had this for a while and have been trying to figure out the true order (without much success). I do think that the person being interviewed at (first file track 8) is actually Sterling Morrison. Anyone agree (or disagree?).
Mark wrote: 21 Mar 2024 17:34 Awesome! Thank you for this

Gig setlist then -

First file:
1. I'll Be Your Mirror (beginning and end cut)
2. I'm Not a Youngman Anymore (end cut)
3. Little Sister (end cut)
4. All Tomorrow's Party (beginning slightly cut)
5. Venus in Furs
6. Black Angel's Death Song
7. Heroin
8. two people chatting while the Hedy film is playing in the background

2nd file:
1min 47 sec of indistinct talking

3rd file:
Indisctinct talking and singing over a PA while a record plays in the background (soundcheck?). Extremely distorted and modulated.Is this the audio from the Hedy film??
At 9 minutes a women is heard describing what can be seen
At 17.40 she states that "the live musicians are now beginning to play in the background" as the film goes on
MC introduces the VU and Nico, with a plug for their sponsored mod shirts
At 20.30 the gig proper starts:
1. I'll Be Your Mirror, voice over describing what's going on.
2. I'm Not a Youngman Anymore (Nico introduces it. More distorted than on the first tape)
3. extremely distorted instrumental / feedback
4. Little Sister (again very distorted, cuts before end)

4th file:
Conversation with John Cale - 17 mins
8 minute silence
5 minutes from Hedy soundtrack (very distorted again)


The conversation with Cale does make it clear that the recordings were made over two nights - the 3rd file being from the first, and then the 4th being recorded before the show on the second night.

So basically we've got approx half an hour of new live VU here, plus an audio verite insight into what a night with the EPI sounded and looked like. Pretty cool!
Yes, that's Sterling

Re: Sound excerpts from interview with John Cale, 1966 September

Posted: 22 Mar 2024 12:38
by Elvis Plebsley
Woah! Thanks for links, Jonas

Re: Sound excerpts from interview with John Cale, 1966 September

Posted: 22 Mar 2024 15:29
by searchin4mymainline
jonas wrote: 21 Mar 2024 15:29 mads.si.edu/mads/id/AAA-AAA_seckdoro_1999_a/AAA-AAA_seckdoro_1999_a.mp3
mads.si.edu/mads/id/AAA-AAA_seckdoro_2000_a/AAA-AAA_seckdoro_2000_a.mp3
mads.si.edu/mads/id/AAA-AAA_seckdoro_2001_a/AAA-AAA_seckdoro_2001_a.mp3
mads.si.edu/mads/id/AAA-AAA_seckdoro_2002_a/AAA-AAA_seckdoro_2002_a.mp3

I kept the links unclickable so your browser doesn't send the smithsonian a referer header that can trace them back to this thread
Thank you!

Re: Sound excerpts from interview with John Cale, 1966 September

Posted: 23 Mar 2024 09:00
by Kill Mick
Many thanks for sharing this, very cool.

It's also now clear that this, and not the gig in Morgantown, is the source for the tracks Ms Rayon has been sharing (which to be fair is what sm7609 said at the time).

Re: Sound excerpts from interview with John Cale, 1966 September

Posted: 23 Mar 2024 09:16
by Kill Mick
Mark wrote: 21 Mar 2024 17:34The conversation with Cale does make it clear that the recordings were made over two nights - the 3rd file being from the first, and then the 4th being recorded before the show on the second night.
So do we think that the 1st file is the show on the second night?

Re: Sound excerpts from interview with John Cale, 1966 September

Posted: 23 Mar 2024 13:44
by taxine
Many thanks,that's amaizing !!

Re: Sound excerpts from interview with John Cale, 1966 September

Posted: 26 Mar 2024 12:09
by simonm
wow, yes! thanks!