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The "after the white heat" bootleg Cd has the best quality source of that show iirc but it is missing Heroin. Heroin is on the old cassette copy I have but is much worse quality wise. But its all relative - it still sounds as if it was recorded from the car park using a tin can as a mic.

By popular demand, here’s a new, revised version of this list! It’s only on Facebook though, since it includes video links (when available) for every entry (something that this forum doesn’t allow).

https://m.facebook.com/groups/236683826 ... oup_browse

The After the White Heat boot is just a nose ahead of other copies I've heard. Except it doesn't have Heroin! That footage does also include Doug singing Candy Says though

Haight Trashbury wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019 22:23 By popular demand, here’s a new, revised version of this list! It’s only on Facebook though, since it includes video links (when available) for every entry (something that this forum doesn’t allow).

https://m.facebook.com/groups/236683826 ... oup_browse

Could you kindly post the text version (even if without links) here?

zaval80 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2019 10:45

Haight Trashbury wrote: ↑22 Jun 2019 22:23 By popular demand, here’s a new, revised version of this list! It’s only on Facebook though, since it includes video links (when available) for every entry (something that this forum doesn’t allow).

https://m.facebook.com/groups/236683826 ... oup_browse

Could you kindly post the text version (even if without links) here?

Sure!

1. “Making of an Underground Film” CBS Broadcast (1965) - Partially Released
2. “The Velvet Underground and Nico: A Symphony of Sound” by Andy Warhol (1966) - Released
3. “The Velvet Underground aka Moe in Bondage aka Moe Gets Tied Up” by Andy Warhol (1966) - Partially Released
4. “The Velvet Underground Tarot Cards” by Andy Warhol (1966) - Unreleased
5. “The Velvet Underground” by Danny Williams (1966) - Partially Released
6. “The Velvet Underground Eats Lunch” by Danny Williams (1966) - Partially Released
7. Warhol Screen Tests (Lou Staring at Camera, Lou Eating Apple, Lou Drinking Coke, Malanga Whip Routine with Band, John Staring at Camera, Moe Staring at Camera, Sterling Staring at Camera, and Nico Staring at Camera, etc.) (1966) - Partially Released
8. Live at Delmonico’s Hotel, Jan. 13, 1966 and Live at the Dom, Spring 1966 (From “Walden: Diaries, Notes, and Sketches” and “Scenes from the Life of Andy Warhol,” respectively. Both films by Jonas Mekas) - Released
9. Live at the Dom, Spring 1966 (Alternate Edit) (From “In Between” by Jonas Mekas.) - Released
10. “Andy Warhol’s Exploding Plastic Inevitable/Exploding Plastic Inevitable” by Ronald Nameth (1966) (Only Known Footage of Band with Angus) (No Lou) - Released
11. EPI 1966 (Unknown Origin) - Partially(?) Released (Literally nothing is known about this one and there’s some contention as to whether it’s the Velvets or the Fugs who are shown, but it definitely looks like the VU. Unknown if this is the Lou lineup or the Maclise on Drums/Moe on bass lineup.)
12. WNET-TV (PBS) 1966 - Released
13. David Susskind’s Open End Appearance w/ Fugs, Warhol, & co. Jan. 30, 1966 - Lost
14. David Susskind’s Open End Appearance w/ Fugs, Warhol, & co. Jan. 30, 1966. Danny Williams Edit (Danny Williams and Barbara Rubin brought cameras on set with them and filmed their own copy of this show). - Unreleased
15. “Uptight #3” by Andy Warhol (1966) (Footage of the VU, Fugs, and Warhol Crew on their way to the aforementioned David Susskind Appearance) - Unreleased
16. Rosalind Stevenson Rehersal Footage (“Sunday Morning,” 1966.) - Released
17. Live at the Paraphernelia Store, March 1966. Filmed by Gerard Malanga. - Partially Released
18. Upbeat. July 8, 1967. “Guess I’m Falling In Love.” Live. - Probably Wiped
19. “The Velvet Underground in Boston” by Andy Warhol (1967) - Released
20. Live at Philip Johnson’s Glass House, 1967 (from “498 Third Avenue” by Klaus Wildenhahn) - Released
21. “****” by Andy Warhol (1967) (John appears multiple times, and in one scene jams with Lou) - Unreleased
22. Upbeat. April, 1968. “Run Run Run.” Master probably wiped. Survives through off-the-air tape by Tony Conrad. - Lost
23. Live in Dallas. Oct. 15, 1969. 8mm audience recording. Silent. - Released
24. Live at the Paramount Theater 4/17/70. No Moe. Songs pictured are “Candy Says” and “Heroin.” Recorded by Steve Nelson of the Music Museum of New England and the Boston Tea Party. Silent, but audio exists from an audience bootleg and can be synced. - Audio: Released. Video: Unreleased

Haight Trashbury wrote: ↑23 Jun 2019 23:29

zaval80 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2019 10:45
Could you kindly post the text version (even if without links) here?

Sure!

1. “Making of an Underground Film” CBS Broadcast (1965) - Partially Released
2. “The Velvet Underground and Nico: A Symphony of Sound” by Andy Warhol (1966) - Released
3. “The Velvet Underground aka Moe in Bondage aka Moe Gets Tied Up” by Andy Warhol (1966) - Partially Released
4. “The Velvet Underground Tarot Cards” by Andy Warhol (1966) - Unreleased
5. “The Velvet Underground” by Danny Williams (1966) - Partially Released
6. “The Velvet Underground Eats Lunch” by Danny Williams (1966) - Partially Released
7. Warhol Screen Tests (Lou Staring at Camera, Lou Eating Apple, Lou Drinking Coke, Malanga Whip Routine with Band, John Staring at Camera, Moe Staring at Camera, Sterling Staring at Camera, and Nico Staring at Camera, etc.) (1966) - Partially Released
8. Live at Delmonico’s Hotel, Jan. 13, 1966 and Live at the Dom, Spring 1966 (From “Walden: Diaries, Notes, and Sketches” and “Scenes from the Life of Andy Warhol,” respectively. Both films by Jonas Mekas) - Released
9. Live at the Dom, Spring 1966 (Alternate Edit) (From “In Between” by Jonas Mekas.) - Released
10. “Andy Warhol’s Exploding Plastic Inevitable/Exploding Plastic Inevitable” by Ronald Nameth (1966) (Only Known Footage of Band with Angus) (No Lou) - Released
11. EPI 1966 (Unknown Origin) - Partially(?) Released (Literally nothing is known about this one and there’s some contention as to whether it’s the Velvets or the Fugs who are shown, but it definitely looks like the VU. Unknown if this is the Lou lineup or the Maclise on Drums/Moe on bass lineup.)
12. WNET-TV (PBS) 1966 - Released
13. David Susskind’s Open End Appearance w/ Fugs, Warhol, & co. Jan. 30, 1966 - Lost
14. David Susskind’s Open End Appearance w/ Fugs, Warhol, & co. Jan. 30, 1966. Danny Williams Edit (Danny Williams and Barbara Rubin brought cameras on set with them and filmed their own copy of this show). - Unreleased
15. “Uptight #3” by Andy Warhol (1966) (Footage of the VU, Fugs, and Warhol Crew on their way to the aforementioned David Susskind Appearance) - Unreleased
16. Rosalind Stevenson Rehersal Footage (“Sunday Morning,” 1966.) - Released
17. Live at the Paraphernelia Store, March 1966. Filmed by Gerard Malanga. - Partially Released
18. Upbeat. July 8, 1967. “Guess I’m Falling In Love.” Live. - Probably Wiped
19. “The Velvet Underground in Boston” by Andy Warhol (1967) - Released
20. Live at Philip Johnson’s Glass House, 1967 (from “498 Third Avenue” by Klaus Wildenhahn) - Released
21. “****” by Andy Warhol (1967) (John appears multiple times, and in one scene jams with Lou) - Unreleased
22. Upbeat. April, 1968. “Run Run Run.” Master probably wiped. Survives through off-the-air tape by Tony Conrad. - Lost
23. Live in Dallas. Oct. 15, 1969. 8mm audience recording. Silent. - Released
24. Live at the Paramount Theater 4/17/70. No Moe. Songs pictured are “Candy Says” and “Heroin.” Recorded by Steve Nelson of the Music Museum of New England and the Boston Tea Party. Silent, but audio exists from an audience bootleg and can be synced. - Audio: Released. Video: Unreleased

Update: I forgot to put the Merry Pranksters footage on the list. Now introducing the new updated version here and on Facebook.

List of All Known Velvets Footage (that I’m currently aware of):

List of All Known Velvets Footage (that I’m currently aware of):

1. “Making of an Underground Film” CBS Broadcast (1965) - Partially Released
2. “The Velvet Underground and Nico: A Symphony of Sound” by Andy Warhol (1966) - Released
3. “The Velvet Underground aka Moe in Bondage aka Moe Gets Tied Up” by Andy Warhol (1966) - Partially Released
4. “The Velvet Underground Tarot Cards” by Andy Warhol (1966) - Unreleased
5. “The Velvet Underground” by Danny Williams (1966) - Partially Released
6. “The Velvet Underground Eats Lunch” by Danny Williams (1966) - Partially Released
7. Warhol Screen Tests (Lou Staring at Camera, Lou Eating Apple, Lou Drinking Coke, Malanga Whip Routine with Band, John Staring at Camera, Moe Staring at Camera, Sterling Staring at Camera, Nico Staring at Camera, etc.) (1966) - Partially Released
8. Live at Delmonico’s Hotel, Jan. 13, 1966 and Live at the Dom, Spring 1966 (From “Walden: Diaries, Notes, and Sketches” and “Scenes from the Life of Andy Warhol,” respectively. Both films by Jonas Mekas) - Released
9. Live at the Dom, Spring 1966 (Alternate Edit) (From “In Between” by Jonas Mekas.) - Released
10. “Andy Warhol’s Exploding Plastic Inevitable/Exploding Plastic Inevitable” by Ronald Nameth (1966) (Only Known Footage of Band with Angus) (No Lou) - Released
11. EPI 1966 (Unknown Origin) - Partially(?) Released (Literally nothing is known about this one and there’s some contention as to whether it’s the Velvets or the Fugs who are shown, but it definitely looks like the VU. Unknown if this is the Lou lineup or the Maclise on Drums/Moe on bass lineup.)
12. WNET-TV (PBS) 1966 - Released
13. David Susskind’s Open End Appearance w/ Fugs, Warhol, & co. Jan. 30, 1966 - Lost
14. David Susskind’s Open End Appearance w/ Fugs, Warhol, & co. Jan. 30, 1966. Danny Williams Edit (Danny Williams and Barbara Rubin brought cameras on set with them and filmed their own copy of this show). - Unreleased
15. “Uptight #3” by Andy Warhol (1966) (Footage of the VU, Fugs, and Warhol Crew on their way to the aforementioned David Susskind Appearance) - Unreleased
16. Rosalind Stevenson Rehersal Footage (“Sunday Morning,” 1966.) - Released
17. Live at the Paraphernelia Store, March 1966. Filmed by Gerard Malanga. - Partially Released
18. Live at the Fillmore(?) 1966. Filmed by the Bill Graham and/or the Merry Pranksters.
19. Upbeat. July 8, 1967. “Guess I’m Falling In Love.” Live. - Probably Wiped
20. “The Velvet Underground in Boston” by Andy Warhol (1967) - Released
21. Live at the Scene Club, New York. 1967. Filmed by Andy Warhol. (Unknown whether this film was actually made, but a contemporary article by the Dutch music magazine “Hitweek” clearly stated that Warhol had his heart set on its production.) - Lost, if extant.
22. Live at Philip Johnson’s Glass House, 1967 (from “498 Third Avenue” by Klaus Wildenhahn) - Released
23. “****” by Andy Warhol (1967) (John appears multiple times, and in one scene jams with Lou) - Unreleased
24. Upbeat. April, 1968. “Run Run Run.” Master probably wiped. Survives through off-the-air tape by Tony Conrad. - Lost
25. Live in Dallas. Oct. 15, 1969. 8mm audience recording. Silent. - Released
26. Live at the Paramount Theater 4/17/70. No Moe. Songs pictured are “Candy Says” and “Heroin.” Recorded by Steve Nelson of the Music Museum of New England and the Boston Tea Party. Silent, but audio exists from an audience bootleg and can be synced. - Audio: Released. Video: Unreleased

Oliviers site also mentions a Jan 1970 appearance on a local TV station in Chicago.

lurid wrote: ↑24 Jun 2019 01:16 Oliviers site also mentions a Jan 1970 appearance on a local TV station in Chicago.

Oh, duh. I forgot about that. Silly me. Here’s the fixed version (on Facebook, too):

1. “Making of an Underground Film” CBS Broadcast (1965) - Partially Released
2. “The Velvet Underground and Nico: A Symphony of Sound” by Andy Warhol (1966) - Released
3. “The Velvet Underground aka Moe in Bondage aka Moe Gets Tied Up” by Andy Warhol (1966) - Partially Released
4. “The Velvet Underground Tarot Cards” by Andy Warhol (1966) - Unreleased
5. “The Velvet Underground” by Danny Williams (1966) - Partially Released
6. “The Velvet Underground Eats Lunch” by Danny Williams (1966) - Partially Released
7. Warhol Screen Tests (Lou Staring at Camera, Lou Eating Apple, Lou Drinking Coke, Malanga Whip Routine with Band, John Staring at Camera, Moe Staring at Camera, Sterling Staring at Camera, Nico Staring at Camera, etc.) (1966) - Partially Released
8. Live at Delmonico’s Hotel, Jan. 13, 1966 and Live at the Dom, Spring 1966 (From “Walden: Diaries, Notes, and Sketches” and “Scenes from the Life of Andy Warhol,” respectively. Both films by Jonas Mekas) - Released
9. Live at the Dom, Spring 1966 (Alternate Edit) (From “In Between” by Jonas Mekas.) - Released
10. “Andy Warhol’s Exploding Plastic Inevitable/Exploding Plastic Inevitable” by Ronald Nameth (1966) (Only Known Footage of Band with Angus) (No Lou) - Released
11. EPI 1966 (Unknown Origin) - Partially(?) Released (Literally nothing is known about this one and there’s some contention as to whether it’s the Velvets or the Fugs who are shown, but it definitely looks like the VU. Unknown if this is the Lou lineup or the Maclise on Drums/Moe on bass lineup.)
12. WNET-TV (PBS) 1966 - Released
13. David Susskind’s Open End Appearance w/ Fugs, Warhol, & co. Jan. 30, 1966 - Lost
14. David Susskind’s Open End Appearance w/ Fugs, Warhol, & co. Jan. 30, 1966. Danny Williams Edit (Danny Williams and Barbara Rubin brought cameras on set with them and filmed their own copy of this show). - Unreleased
15. “Uptight #3” by Andy Warhol (1966) (Footage of the VU, Fugs, and Warhol Crew on their way to the aforementioned David Susskind Appearance) - Unreleased
16. Rosalind Stevenson Rehersal Footage (“Sunday Morning,” 1966.) - Released
17. Live at the Paraphernelia Store, March 1966. Filmed by Gerard Malanga. - Partially Released
18. Live at the Fillmore(?) 1966. Filmed by Bill Graham and/or the Merry Pranksters. - Partially Released
19. Upbeat. July 8, 1967. “Guess I’m Falling In Love.” Live. - Probably Wiped
20. “The Velvet Underground in Boston” by Andy Warhol (1967) - Released
21. Live at the Scene Club, New York. 1967. Filmed by Andy Warhol. (Unknown whether this film was actually made, but a contemporary article by the Dutch music magazine “Hitweek” clearly stated that Warhol had his heart set on its production.) - Lost, if extant.
22. Live at Philip Johnson’s Glass House, 1967 (from “498 Third Avenue” by Klaus Wildenhahn) - Released
23. “****” by Andy Warhol (1967) (John appears multiple times, and in one scene jams with Lou) - Unreleased
24. Upbeat. April, 1968. “Run Run Run.” Master probably wiped. Survives through off-the-air tape by Tony Conrad. - Lost
25. Live in Dallas. Oct. 15, 1969. 8mm audience recording. Silent. - Released
26. Chicago TV. Jan, 1970. - Lost
27. Live at the Paramount Theater 4/17/70. No Moe. Songs captured are “Candy Says” and “Heroin.” Recorded by Steve Nelson of the Music Museum of New England and the Boston Tea Party. Silent, but audio exists from an audience bootleg and can be synced. - Audio: Released. Video: Unreleased

I am not able to access that facebook group. Anyway your list is missing Piero Heliczer movie Venus in Furs. From what I heard Nico and Lou are playing It was a pleasure then in Warhol moview Four Stars. It would confirm a short excerpt in Nico - Frozen Warnings clip, see around 2:25 :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XJC0cZD6zg
In fanzine What Goes On someone mentioned that he filmed VU at late 1966. It was in The Best Of 1 & 2 or Issue 4, but I dont have them around to check.
And there is still a short beautiful color footage used in RnR Heart documetary with Nico and Cale. No idea where it is from, probably some TV b/cast

walkonvu wrote: ↑24 Jun 2019 15:11 I am not able to access that facebook group. Anyway your list is missing Piero Heliczer movie Venus in Furs. From what I heard Nico and Lou are playing It was a pleasure then in Warhol moview Four Stars. It would confirm a short excerpt in Nico - Frozen Warnings clip, see around 2:25 :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XJC0cZD6zg
In fanzine What Goes On someone mentioned that he filmed VU at late 1966. It was in The Best Of 1 & 2 or Issue 4, but I dont have them around to check.
And there is still a short beautiful color footage used in RnR Heart documetary with Nico and Cale. No idea where it is from, probably some TV b/cast

I always wondered about that short piece of colour footage of nico in the Lou documentary. Is it from the "merry pranksters" piece mentioned above?