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15 sec. is cut from the middle of Melody Laughter on Move Ba

Posted: 23 Feb 2011 20:30
by feelingfresh
I recently discovered that If it's Too Loud for You Move Back! -- long considered to be the definitive version of the November 4, 1966
Valley Dale Ballroom, Columbus, Ohio performance -- there's 15 seconds literally cut out of the middle of the song!!!

I discovered this when comparing sound quality of different versions of the performance.

UPDATE: Below, I posted my instructions on how to find this by comparing Move back! with Twisted Stars: http://www.velvetforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=22132#p22132

Re: 15 sec. is cut from the middle of Melody Laughter on Move Ba

Posted: 25 Feb 2011 09:51
by simonm
I can live with it.

Re: 15 sec. is cut from the middle of Melody Laughter on Move Ba

Posted: 25 Feb 2011 13:37
by bobbldr
simonm wrote:I can live with it.
Me too. :-)

Re: 15 sec. is cut from the middle of Melody Laughter on Move Ba

Posted: 25 Feb 2011 21:44
by Mark
It's high time someone went back to the master of this show and did a really good 24/96 transfer. Move Back is good but I'm sure a better version is possible.

Re: 15 sec. is cut from the middle of Melody Laughter on Mov

Posted: 25 Feb 2011 22:05
by feelingfresh
Mark wrote:It's high time someone went back to the master of this show and did a really good 24/96 transfer. Move Back is good but I'm sure a better version is possible.
An improvement in quality would be awesome as the quality of the performance is not good, but do you think the quality can be improved? Don't you think the version on Peel Slowly and See would be as good as it gets (the PSAS version is on par with Move Back! in my opinion, albeit a little bit different sonically).

OK! The cut on Move Back! is at 27:27!

Re: 15 sec. is cut from the middle of Melody Laughter on Move Ba

Posted: 26 Feb 2011 08:04
by nick257
Isnt there another version of this show from the Nico beautiful friend vol 1 thats meant to be from the PSAS remastering? I dont have this one so if anyone has it please upload it somewhere. This is meant to be the best sounding version.

Re: 15 sec. is cut from the middle of Melody Laughter on Move Ba

Posted: 26 Feb 2011 14:11
by feelingfresh
nick257 wrote:Isnt there another version of this show from the Nico beautiful friend vol 1 thats meant to be from the PSAS remastering?
Google gives me no results for this "Beautiful Friend" album. :?:

Re: 15 sec. is cut from the middle of Melody Laughter on Move Ba

Posted: 26 Feb 2011 15:05
by Mark
There are a couple of mentions here and here. Not much info though. It appears it's part of a vine put together by someone called Jack the Ripper.

Re: 15 sec. is cut from the middle of Melody Laughter on Move Ba

Posted: 26 Feb 2011 15:16
by feelingfresh
How do we know that this "Beautiful Friend" collection contains a leak of the "Peel Slowly and See" version in its unedited form?

Re: 15 sec. is cut from the middle of Melody Laughter on Move Ba

Posted: 26 Feb 2011 16:21
by simonm
feelingfresh wrote:How do we know that this "Beautiful Friend" collection contains a leak of the "Peel Slowly and See" version in its unedited form?
hi - I don't want to just be Mr Sarcastic Reply, but obviously we don't know this, only that someone on the internet claims it be so.
I/we/you once believed that the complete version was on Move Back after all.

It might be true, or at least the person who put it together probably believes it to be true, since it's not part of a commercially-produced boot, like MB etc, and arguably a leak from Universal is a more credible claim than 'direct from the original tape!!' or whatever.