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Re: 1967 Gymnasium tapes

Posted: 14 Feb 2008 09:53
by Elvis Plebsley
Well, those three snippets of possible gymanasium Sister Ray, have meant that I've suspected all along that a bootlegger had access to the tape; it was the ultimate VU prick tease. Maybe an official release is imminent, or maybe there's another reason for that someone to cash in.

One of the things that makes me think it could be real, is the fact that it appears to be missing things that we know/have been told are on the tape: Booker T, Walk and Talk. If I was going to perpetuate a scam, and I was knowledgeable enought to add the unknown track, why would I leave these off? It would be a doddle to cop Booker T from an existing source and add it with a bit of fake cheering. So like I say, reasons to be suspicious, reasons to be cheerful.

Re: 1967 Gymnasium tapes

Posted: 14 Feb 2008 10:45
by papaya
Has anyone send a email to the seller of the LP and ask for some info?

And did you get a replay?

Re: 1967 Gymnasium tapes

Posted: 14 Feb 2008 12:24
by alfredovu
Image

On the Left above we can see "The Peanuts Underground", from What Goes On 1&2. On the original print Moe was on the right. Here they have moved her to the left to be the first on the line looking at the rest of the members: Sterl, Nico, Lou (Snoopy), Andy and John (Charlie Brown).

On the Right side there is a Verve Promotial Add ("Hullaballoo Magazine May/June 1968" ) Was about a contest designing a Velvet Underground Subway Token. What Goes On #3 used this same add for their own VU contest changing the wording and layout. This one here is the original one.

Re: 1967 Gymnasium tapes

Posted: 14 Feb 2008 13:16
by Mark
Elvis Plebsley wrote:Well, those three snippets of possible gymanasium Sister Ray, have meant that I've suspected all along that a bootlegger had access to the tape
Very true, I hadn't thought of that.
One of the things that makes me think it could be real, is the fact that it appears to be missing things that we know/have been told are on the tape: Booker T, Walk and Talk. If I was going to perpetuate a scam, and I was knowledgeable enought to add the unknown track, why would I leave these off? It would be a doddle to cop Booker T from an existing source and add it with a bit of fake cheering. So like I say, reasons to be suspicious, reasons to be cheerful.
True again. My hope is that, as suggested by the two versions of Guess I'm Falling in Love, there are two sets recorded from the Gymnasium, this is one of them, and the other (with Booker T, Walk and Talk, GiFL and others) is coming next!

Re: 1967 Gymnasium tapes

Posted: 14 Feb 2008 14:58
by bleach
I agree with citizensmurf and that its been 'liberated' from a possible official release pressing via the record company. It could be that they have the complete tapes but will spread it over 2/3 LPs for maximum bucks..That recent Boston Tea Party 1969 4CD set could have been taken in this way (or it could have just come form dimeadozen)

Bootleggers are always looking for the cheapest & easiest source possible, tracking down recordings could involve months of time & money, its much easier to offer an office bod a hundred notes for that cdr thats kicking round the record company office.

Re: 1967 Gymnasium tapes

Posted: 14 Feb 2008 18:30
by iaredatsun
papaya wrote:Has anyone send a email to the seller of the LP and ask for some info?

And did you get a replay?
Yes. Here's what he told me in answer to - What's the story? And will there me more of the tape?

'i just got this lp from a guy in x,who said he payed big money for this tape,dont know if its the full gig,'

my x to protect the guilty ;)

I guess bombarding him with more questions wont help.

Re: 1967 Gymnasium tapes

Posted: 14 Feb 2008 18:46
by Mark
"xxxxx" = "The Velvet Underground"? :wink:

Re: 1967 Gymnasium tapes

Posted: 14 Feb 2008 19:24
by iaredatsun
Mark wrote:"xxxxx" = "The Velvet Underground"? :wink:
No, sorry it was just the country of origin. I just didn't want to be responsible for spreading too many second-hand facts that might get anyone into any trouble anywhere.

Re: 1967 Gymnasium tapes

Posted: 14 Feb 2008 19:40
by alfredovu
iaredatsun wrote:
Mark wrote:"xxxxx" = "The Velvet Underground"? :wink:
No, sorry it was just the country of origin. I just didn't want to be responsible for spreading too many second-hand facts that might get anyone into any trouble anywhere.
If each "x" above is a letter ... this makes sense to me :wink:

Re: 1967 Gymnasium tapes

Posted: 14 Feb 2008 19:57
by Mark
Wales? :P