The Velvet Forum

mg196 wrote:

bobbldr wrote:Am I crazy or are all of these "Japanese" Velvets boots only available from one source? That's how it seems. I have wondered this for some time now.

Yeah, the source is Dimeadozen.org.

I mean the cd pressings. It seems they all come from one source, correct?

This one has been put out by Scorpio, a well-established boot outfit - they have had a pretty good rep for getting the best sources for their Dylan boots for several years - but I'd still tend to agree with MG, in this case the discs are probably mastered from the same circulating files...

are these the only dates we have boston tea party recordings from? these are the only ones i have.....?

• 12/12/68
  03/13/69
  03/15/69
  07/11/69
  10/1/69
  11/07/69

From what I understand, the Scorpio name has been taken over by a Japanese concern.

I was able to order a copy of this direct from a Japanese mail order outfit:
http://www.beastone.com. Their price is surprisingly cheap: $60 US. Typical going price for the set in the US seems to be about $95.

The sound is better than the versions currently circulating, but not significantly so. Still, as it seems highly unlikely the Tea Party shows will see a legitimate release, this set will probably stand as the final word.

Yes, the track listings are a bit out of whack, but that was done so all of the material could fit onto 4 CDs; the January 10 and March 15 shows being too long to fit onto a single CD.

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-deta ... ?id=166859

This set is now uploaded to Dime...


The Velvet Underground
Boston Tea Party 1969
Scorpio 1969-1/2/3/4

Liberated bootleg

Lineage: Silver CD > EAC (secure mode) > WAV > FLAC (level 8 w/ Align on sector boundaries)

Line-up:
Sterling Morrison
Lou Reed
Moe Tucker
Doug Yule

This set compiles 4 audience recordings of Velvet Underground shows at the Boston Tea Party in 1969.

January 10, March 13, and July 11 are from the famous 'Professor' reels (two others exist: December 12, 1968 at The Boston Tea Party, and August 2, 1969 at Hilltop Festival).

March 15 is also known as "The Guitar Amp Tape".

"Move Right In" on disc 2 is from January 10 recording and should be placed between "Heroin" and "I'm Set Free".

"Candy Says" on disc 4 is from March 15 recording and should be placed between "I Can't Stand It" and "Waiting For The Man".

Despite the back cover reads otherwise, disc 1 has actually 9 tracks (no track separation between "Heroin" and "I'm Set Free, same between "What Goes On" and "I Can't Stand It"), and disc 4 has 11 tracks (track 1 "Intro" is not listed).

Original artwork (300dpi) with slipcase included.

PLAY LOUD! ENJOY!

Disc 1:
01 - Heroin / I'm Set Free (11:55)
02 - Run Run Run (7:21)
03 - Waiting For The Man (8:40)
04 - What Goes On / I Can't Stand It (9:47)
05 - Candy Says (3:48)
06 - Beginning To See The Light (5:20)
07 - White Light White Heat (5:30)
08 - Pale Blue Eyes (5:51)
09 - Sister Ray (21:08)
TRT 79:20
01-09: January 10, 1969, Boston Tea Party, Boston, Massachusetts

Disc 2:
01 - Move Right In (3:44)
02 - Heroin (5:52)
03 - Candy Says (3:54)
04 - Ferryboat Bill (3:58)
05 - Waiting For The Man (5:01)
06 - I'm Set Free (4:19)
07 - What Goes On (5:57)
08 - I Can't Stand It (5:37)
09 - Beginning To See The Light (5:18)
10 - Story Of My Life (2:15)
11 - White Light White Heat (6:52)
12 - Jesus (3:21)
13 - Sister Ray (22:24)
TRT 78:32
01: January 10, 1969, Boston Tea Party, Boston, Massachusetts
02-13: March 13, 1969, Boston Tea Party, Boston, Massachusetts

Disc 3:
01 - I Can't Stand It (5:44)
02 - Waiting For The Man (6:59)
03 - Ferryboat Bill (4:04)
04 - I'm Set Free (4:47)
05 - What Goes On (7:35)
06 - White Light White Heat (7:31)
07 - Beginning To See The Light (5:23)
08 - Jesus (3:23)
09 - Heroin (8:16)
10 - Sister Ray (25:59)
TRT 79:44
01-10: March 15, 1969, Boston Tea Party, Boston, Massachusetts

Disc 4:
01 - Intro (0:26)
02 - Waiting For The Man (7:22)
03 - Jesus (3:31)
04 - Run Run Run (14:12)
05 - I'm Set Free (4:54)
06 - White Light White Heat (6:25)
07 - Candy Says (4:08)
08 - Pale Blue Eyes (7:07)
09 - Beginning To See The Light (6:41)
10 - Sister Ray (21:02)
11 - Candy Says (4:09)
TRT 79:59
01-10: July 11, 1969, Boston Tea Party, Boston, Massachusetts
11: March 15, 1969, Boston Tea Party, Boston, Massachusetts

Thanks for the seed! Much appreciated! Nice set.

hmm.. upon further listen it seems like SOME of the tracks are better quality than the ones I already have. But some of them seem worse (that's the story.. from praise ye seems better for example)

I got a copy of this from Beastone Japan yesterday.The sound is better than my previous copies of all shows except the guitar amp tape which is marginally worse.15/3/69 doesn't sound to have been sourced from vinyl like the 'Legendaly' version.It's a nice item tho' expensive for what it is but doesn't feel as much of a rip off as the Nothing Songs releases. . . . . }<{("<


Speaking of the guitar amp tape,years ago I had a different edit of this.Can't Stand It had a count in and there were no jumps starts to any tracks there was audience noise then the next song would start.H went into Sister Ray after the former had almost faded down to nothing.Alas my tape was lost many moons ago tho' i have a copy of part of it.I confess to using it as a karaoke backing track and dubbing my voice onto it!!. . . . .[ hangs head in shame . . . . gets coat. . . ]

I think that this set has been seriously underrated by all of us. I've been listening to these cds and comparing them to the previously circulating copies and there is no doubt that all the shows are in much better quality here. The guitar amp tape is a lower generation than even the afterhours tape version but unfortunately there is an annoying cut where heroin goes into sister ray (they have cross-faded sister ray in too early). Presumably they did this to get it to fit onto the cds but it is very annoying because the change into sister ray is one of the highlights of the 15/3/69 show. Even with this I think that this is a significant upgrade.

Hopefully we'll eventually get the bootleg series version without the cuts..............................

I generally agree. My old "cassette" copy of 15 March 69 has a nice clean (uncut) transition between "H" and "Ray" but I'm really not convinced that the 4CD set version is any better, generation-wise.

I personally dont think we'll ever see these come out "officially" - this 4CD set + the "4th generation" copy of 12/12/68 I upped to Dime are going to be it I think.....(a friend of mine has a copy of the Polygram "remaster" of 12/12/68 and said that it's not significantly better than my "4th gen" copy)


[quote="nick257"]I think that this set has been seriously underrated by all of us. I've been listening to these cds and comparing them to the previously circulating copies and there is no doubt that all the shows are in much better quality here. The guitar amp tape is a lower generation than even the afterhours tape version but unfortunately there is an annoying cut where heroin goes into sister ray (they have cross-faded sister ray in too early). Presumably they did this to get it to fit onto the cds but it is very annoying because the change into sister ray is one of the highlights of the 15/3/69 show. Even with this I think that this is a significant upgrade.

Hopefully we'll eventually get the bootleg series version without the cuts..............................[/quote]