The Velvet Forum

Thanks for the info. I've mostly listened to "the common bootleg" so for me this sounds like it will be a real upgrade!

I guess they made new mixes (maybe tried to recreate the old ones) because they were not happy with the actate quality and didn't have the tape with mixed-down versions. Now that they found the latter there's no reason not to use that one. Hoping for a relatively quick release of this one (and that the digitalization of the Warhol archive will eventually lead to a boxset of Velvet audio and video-treasures. One can dream..)

The versions on the tape they used for the 45th box must have been mixed to some extent - presumably the same mixes that were then cut to acetate - so why not just use them? It's probably just a personal thing but I'm just not a fan of new mixes of old recordings, even if they are technically superior or have better fidelity. I'd rather listen to the 1969 mixes of the VU/Another VU tracks than the ones done in 84/86 any day of the week.

Kill Mick wrote: ↑23 Jun 2023 07:53 One thing I do hope is that if they do release the tapes they leave them in their original 1966 mixes. Personally I don't know why they felt the need to give them a new mix for the 45th set, I'd much rather they just left them as they were.

The Warhol tapes are mono mixdowns. I dont see how they are going to prepare a new mix for any putative future release.

I never really thought about the 45th set Scepter tracks from tape being newly created mono mixes. But I assume if they did that it's only because they did not have the mixdown.

iaredatsun wrote: ↑23 Jun 2023 23:51

Kill Mick wrote: ↑23 Jun 2023 07:53 One thing I do hope is that if they do release the tapes they leave them in their original 1966 mixes. Personally I don't know why they felt the need to give them a new mix for the 45th set, I'd much rather they just left them as they were.

The Warhol tapes are mono mixdowns. I dont see how they are going to prepare a new mix for any putative future release.

I never really thought about the 45th set Scepter tracks from tape being newly created mono mixes. But I assume if they did that it's only because they did not have the mixdown.

The tape tracks on the 45th were mono mixes done at Sterling Sound by Kevin Reeves in 2012. I don't know enough about the technical process of mixing to really comment whether that was necessary or not, but surely the tapes continued some sort of original releasable material (which was the source for the new mixes)? I'm just saying I would have preferred that if possible, but maybe it wasn't.

Kill Mick wrote: ↑24 Jun 2023 08:13
The tape tracks on the 45th were mono mixes done at Sterling Sound by Kevin Reeves in 2012. I don't know enough about the technical process of mixing to really comment whether that was necessary or not, but surely the tapes continued some sort of original releasable material (which was the source for the new mixes)? I'm just saying I would have preferred that if possible, but maybe it wasn't.

Sterling Sound is mastering studio

I'm just going off the sleeve notes which say "mono mixes prepared at Sterling Sound". I don't know if that means they were actually mixed there (I assumed it did) or just mastered.

Kill Mick wrote: ↑24 Jun 2023 20:07 I'm just going off the sleeve notes which say "mono mixes prepared at Sterling Sound". I don't know if that means they were actually mixed there (I assumed it did) or just mastered.

Normally they do say ‘mixed by’. In the 45th book, I read ‘prepared by’ as meaning something else.