Warhol/VU CBS footage on Afterhours video tape #13?

Mark · Post by **Mark** » 28 Mar 2007 00:15

And for good measure:

GroovyMusic · Post by **GroovyMusic** » 28 Mar 2007 00:36

Are those just enlarged versions of the two velvi$ posted?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 28 Mar 2007 09:29

Hi I have this old afterhours vhs tape. the warhol segment is a tthe ens of the tape. it'S definetly not south bank, just a short (5m)tv report about Warhol and the factory.
The footage from "making an underground movie" is very short. basically it's the same then on "dancing on the street#7" and on the more recent John Cals docu. If you have one of these there's no need for this old tape.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » 28 Mar 2007 11:53

Groovy - I really don't know. They're straight from Ondrej's site.

Anonymous wrote:Hi I have this old afterhours vhs tape. the warhol segment is a tthe ens of the tape. it'S definetly not south bank, just a short (5m)tv report about Warhol and the factory.
The footage from "making an underground movie" is very short. basically it's the same then on "dancing on the street#7" and on the more recent John Cals docu. If you have one of these there's no need for this old tape.

Thanks for clearing that up! Is there any indication of what show the clip is taken from?

Elvis Plebsley · Post by **Elvis Plebsley** » 28 Mar 2007 17:14

VENUS IN FURS
Piero Heliczer, 16 mm, color, 6 or 16 min, silent, 1965
Featuring : Julie Garfield, Barbara Rubin, Chas Stanley and Margaret Boyce Cam, Lou Reed, John Cale, Angus MacLise and others.
Original soundtrack by The Velvet Underground. Tape speed: 7.5 ips.

Notes: The Making of an Underground Film, a report about Piero Heliczer's film Venus In Furs, with the Velvet Underground performing Heroin, Heliczer joining in on saxophone was broadcasted on December 31, 1965 in the CBS Walter Cronkite Show.

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Not sure if that answers your question, Mark. What I've always been confused by is that fact that this is a silent film with a Velvet Underground soundtrack

Rob

Mark · Post by **Mark** » 28 Mar 2007 20:58

Elvis Plebsley wrote:Not sure if that answers your question, Mark.

Absolutely not in any way whatsoever

What I've always been confused by is that fact that this is a silent film with a Velvet Underground soundtrack

My take on it is that the film itself is silent, however Heliczer made tapes that would be played during screenings of the film. For at least some showings, the tape in question would seem to have been taken from the soundtrack of the CBS News report - see the blurb about the Venus In Furs film here.

Some time ago, somebody sent me a copy of a flyer for the Cinematheque which stated that other showings of the film featured "live accompaniment from the Aquarium Orchestra under the direction of Angus Maclise."

Mark · Post by **Mark** » 03 Apr 2007 19:11

Anonymous wrote:Hi I have this old afterhours vhs tape. the warhol segment is a tthe ens of the tape. it'S definetly not south bank, just a short (5m)tv report about Warhol and the factory.
The footage from "making an underground movie" is very short. basically it's the same then on "dancing on the street#7" and on the more recent John Cals docu. If you have one of these there's no need for this old tape.

Dear Anonymous (and indeed anyone else who has this tape) - I've just, finally, got hold of the Dancing In The Street video with the 30 secs or so of CBS footage in it. The obvious drawback of this video is that it doesn't have the original soundtrack - instead, it seems to be overdubbed with another version of Venus In Furs (possibly from WNET). Does either the Cale version or this Warhol-related clip have the original sound?